in the US (if you do live there) its not encouraged to make friends at work

For real? Why? You work with this people together, you talk and maybe share something about your life. You may find common hobbies and more. At my last workplace a befriended someone fast and invited him home to show my pigeons and eat something. You spend so much time at work. I mean I know coworkers who got married. And its not uncommon that the friendship continues even when you switch the workplace

From my personal experience Greeks and Italiens are not always seen as whites where I live. Its Germany. It can get racist fast if a crime happens and the perpetrator is described “southern looking”. Spaniards, Turks, Italians, Greeks and so on are likely met with racism. It always amazes me how notorious subreddits like r/Europa are behaving like there is some kind of unity. It happened often that I met people who saw people from Poland (They especially) and Greeks as uncultured barbarians.

Russians are orcs anyway today. However some of them rather see Greeks more friendly, because orthodoxy.

Of course it doesn’t work because the Irish weren’t viewed as White until relatively recently

White can be a ideology and transcend skin colours. Nazis needed also terms to dehumanise people of other countries. I would gladly read more about the historic situation of Ireland.

This article is ugly. It reads like the world is build around the western-bourgeois worldview. South Africa stand rather on Russia’s side? Well, it was some Russian shit “cultivated” somewhere and a “Thank you” for the time, when the Soviet Union supported something. Typical Africans of course, they can’t think for them self and don’t recognise basic morality and rather choose Orcs.

Some dude in Armenia is not having a Putin portrait anymore hanging on his wall. Someone in a territory occupied by Israel (normal thing I guess) is happy that Assad is no more.

What are they trying to say, despite non-westerns are stupid? I find it always funny if western “minded” people are confused, if one from Ghana is the same way indifferent to the war in Ukraine, as the common European is indifferent to any war outside western countries.

This thing read like “I visited 10 random countries and asked everytime a random person about Putin.” WHAT DO THEY WANT TO SAY, PLEASE HELP ME GOD I DONT GET IT

In Germany bodycams do exists, but it is rather decided by each state if they are used and where. Also some states are still testing. I hope it gets to be a requirement for the police here.

those recorded also have absolutely no rights so a mother crying because her baby was found dead cannot request a right to privacy/removal.

Oh god, also no way to censor the face or voice of the mother? Its humiliating. No need for the public to see this…

it should be noted that americans are this quick to record everything because it played a huge part in minorities being able to document what was done to them.

Absolutely important. I personally have a fear, that they manage to tamper it somehow. I need to inform myself how this all works I guess.

And heat producing, power and water guzzling datacenters in this time of climate change is absolutely NOT what we need.

I hope it gets more and more optimised and efficient, so it can be used with a local setup. With a normal computer or notebook

Thank you for the recommendation. I read, that she lived very poor as a child, bad parents, started working with 14 and had a serious illness. Definitely something to watch and learn.

Do you remember which of those films you found good?

Do you know how this is released? I know there are huge US channels on YouTube showing them with a lot of bootlickers in the comments. Does the police station have an online archive were also “boring” stuff is released? Or is it only stuff, where the police looks good and cool?

I don’t have anything to add, its the same conclusion I have. Well written!

It’s not a topic people here care to discuss much, wary of feeding Russian propaganda.

Bad news is Russian propaganda I guess. This is a bad kind of thinking. But that’s how war is, according to news of each side, everyone is doing good, the enemy is losing. The most idiotic way of thinking is to actually buy this shit. Completely denying reality.

Ukraine does admit openly that it has a problem, which is new.

Could be a manoeuvre, to make the western public thinking, that NATO soldiers should be send into Ukraine

You are right about that. I genuinely wish the person only the best in this struggle and maybe should stopped earlier. Thanks for your words

It’s to decide who needs treatment first, based on medical need.

This is a part. It doesn’t decide who should be saved. Otherwise during corona time the triage rules wouldn’t be the way the were. Same thing for war zones.

NOT who goes without treatment based on their value to society.

Free to quote me, free to quote me. Where did I said that, something about value to society. I don’t have the impression, that my English is that shitty.

You are still lying. Not only that, you edited your comment. There was NO source, no article. Now there is and I asked you about that. Since you edited it, of course I coudlnt say anything more about it then asking for a source because I want to know more about that.

You claimed this is just triage, and logical. Absolutely not. I said I know that a selection is done in very serious situations, called triage and said how it works. And also that a triage is a logical thing to do. You can read it.

Triage is treating a more seriously ill person before a less seriously ill person as the more seriously ill person is in more urgent need of treatment.

This is triage as well. Also the question who should be treated in catastrophic situation if there are not enough resources. You can’t be that in denial and ignore history. Your dictionary says the right thing, however it is more. And I still mentioned it, because it is the only situation I know where decisions, who should treated and who not, can be made.

I have clearly explained that people with disabilities such as learning difficulties, who stood just as much chance of survival as non-disabled people, were refused treatment and left to die just because they had learning difficulties.

I wanted to read about that, could not find anything. And then later you just edit your comment and paste it into.

You keep saying “if not enough doctors were available,” firstly nowhere did I say that not enough doctors were available.

You said that it would be nazi eugenics if a doctor would decide who should be treated, if resources are few. I quoted and explained why its not nazi eugenic shit. But it had clearly in that point nothing to do about corona and the treatment of disabled people.

Secondly even if not enough doctors were available, deciding to refuse treatment to a person because they are disabled is still eugenics, and as stated in the article, actually illegal.

Of course this would be eugenics. I never said anything else. I talked about treatment decisions made in war zones and catastrophes, because you said, that to decide itself is eugenic stuff.

You are not arguing in good faith

You are very frustrated and say reactionary things like human nature, animal nature, Sparta and the inherent hatred against disabled people in humanity. Your experience doesn’t mean that you won’t receive critics for such takes. Of course it would be good faith if one would simply say :“You are right, they want to kill us tomorrow, its their nature”.

Being in denial about triage is however something special.

you’re adding things that aren’t there

Which?

And you claiming to be disabled doesn’t atually absolve you of anything you’ve said.

Oh oh, I am only claiming it now. Right, no disabled person would disagree with you. My words however are the product of my human nature I guess, I didn’t overcame the animal part in me. So you can’t be mad at me, no matter how much you fail in reading. For real, stop behaving shitty. Lying, then editing your comment to add an article only to claim then, that I apparently think that I am fine with the dead of disabled people. How shameful.

So I am not answering any more.

That’s fine and OK. More important is, that people reading this will at least see, that this liberal reactionary stuff like “human nature”, " Some humans didn’t overcome animal nature", “Humans have inherent malice against disabled people” is not simply accepted but will get rejected. Every time I read how human nature is the reason for something, than I will comment.

Edit:

This is how you can edit comments. Write, that you edited. However I had enough experience with Reddit, where users did the same thing. The most annoying was a dude who edited it several times. Every time in a way, that made me look like some evil communist trying to eat children. I really really should start taking screenshots.

I never invalidated your experience nor did I justify the death of disabled folks. You read what you want to read. Your experience is reality, but your thoughts about the evil human nature is not reality. You start to discuss in bad faith now. Maybe you are willing to read what I wrote at least, if I tell you that I am in fact disabled as well. I will send you my ID card with the contained disability score if needed. But just stop lying, that I want to see disabled people death. You can be frustrated, angry or whatever about your situation, but what you do now is not OK.

some people can rise above their animal nature which is why some people are compassionate towards the disabled.

Reactionary take. Animal nature in people which allegedly leads to the death of disabled. Something you find in the bible, but for real not in real life.

As for the majority of society, the reason sick people aren’t simply killed is because people want to feel like good people.

Or maybe they don’t want to see people die, no matter if disabled or not. You can find explanations, why in certain episodes in the history of humanity the treatment of disabled people was different. But you choose to reduce it to animal nature, human nature and “people want to feel good”. Even liberals started to question why the holocaust could happen, despite so much “civilisation” and came to better answers for the reason of atrocities committed by humans then “animal nature”. You seem to think, that everyone wants you death. You maybe frustrated, but your arguments have still reactionary tendencies. The whole human nature thing is wrong. Especially how can you ignore the fact, that its always a certain type of people which push the narrative, that disabled people are a burden and influence heavily others?

So they have set up a society in which there is a bare-minimum, difficult to access welfare state.

They didn’t simply set up a society. For long time there was simply nothing and in many countries still is. Every counter reform against the working class is pushed by a certain class, openly. The welfare state is a reaction to the fights of the working class, like in other countries. They dismantle it and make the narrative. But you conclude it like everything was created by not disabled people against disabled. However they are still alive, because people want to show others, that they are morally fine.

This way they keep costs down, kill off the disabled bit by bit yet can pretend it’s not by design and that they’re actually trying to help.

The bourgeois state has still no interest to help the sick and disabled. Your mistake is, that you think its “society” as whole who wants disabled and sick people dead.

If a black person in America talks about their experiences of racism there, and how historically they were slaves, would you say “Why only choose those examples?” And talk about times and places you think black people were treated well?

No, because it would be historically correct. Racism in the US and Europe has a direct line to the enslavement of African people. But you are making connection between Sparta and today. How was it in Attica then, were the disabled treated better or worse? Is this a general trend in that time how disabled people were treated as whole? And if yes, is this now the explanation, why the NHS is denying basic things? Also the dude from the 16 century. Why him as reference? Believe it or not, I am disabled and my possibilities to work are limited. But I never would explain the bad treatment of disabled people with Sparta. Your experience is valid. But your arguments are not right.

It’s also pointless to argue with someone who thinks leaving people to die because they’re disabled is acceptable,

That’s the point which makes me lose any respect towards you. I didn’t say it, you make it up. I asked you for a source, because google only gave me shitty newsarticles about Great Britain, corona and nothing about what I looked for. Furthermore you claimed, that it would be some nazi eugenic shit, if a doctor had to decide in a catastrophic situation who has to live or not, if not enough doctors are available. That’s where I simply explained, that a Triage is nothing like nazi eugenic.

But you ignore it and now I am apparently support the death of disabled people how Great Britain had done it with disabled people.

Triage is treating the people with the most urgent medical need first. It’s not saying “This person’s life is less valuable and more of a burden to society so we won’t treat them at all.” That is actually eugenics.

Still no. Triage is about setting priorities who should be treated, IF medical resources are limited. The question is there, who should benefit the most from those resources. Its not about disabled people. The “less valuable” are your words, not mine. Nothing I said.

So many major releases? Why?

But it is malice.

I still have to disagree. Ignorance can lead to malice, but nothing like a malice nature exists. Such things are a topic in the bible maybe, but anywhere else it doesnt make much sense. Your experience is valid, but your assumptions were true, disabled people would simply be killed in the next moment. So the teachers in those special schools are full of hatred as well? Same goes for psychiatrists? What is the reason for such professions, if it would be more easier to simply kill sick people? You can’t simply ignore the development of ethics in the medical field. I already explained how capitalism leads to chauvinism. But your mistake is to point it down to human nature and a few historic societies. You talked about material conditions, but now you ignore them. It’s not the humanity, which is at fault. I don’t feel malice towards disabled people, what is wrong with my human nature?

Well, during covid disabled people were left to die while the able bodied were treated. And it wasn’t just people with a lower chance of surviving, it was people with learning difficulties too, and people with lifelong disabilities but who were still capable of living into old age, people who stood just as much chance of surviving as a non-disabled person, but whose lives were seen as less valuable.

That’s not good. I was not successful finding anything useable about this. Can you provide something?

Even if there isn’t enough medical treatment to go around, how is deciding who gets treated on this basis any different than Nazi eugenics?

Its called triage. Also happens in war zones. Its the real trolley problem, nothing abstract. You have several people in critical conditions, who is treated then? If enough doctors are available, of course those who are more sick. But what if its a huge pandemic or a warzone like palestine. You can’t save everyone and some will more likely survive others not. So you have to make priorities. It is a logical consequence, anything else would be wrong. Of course the doctor can try to save someone who will die with a chance of 10%, while others who would survive if treated are dying. Triage is nothing fun. Its applied when the situation is damn serious. You can look about this topic online I think. Triage is not nazi eugenics.

I didn’t say all animals behave this way

But you chooses only a kind of animals as comparison.

Even Thomas More, in his book Utopia, wrote that long term sick and disabled people should be killed to prevent them from being a burden on others.

Why do you take especially Morus as a reference?

Even in ancient Sparta, the disabled were punished and chastised for being unable to fight.

Why only Sparta? How was it in Attica? What about the sacred band of Theben, the concept sounds like a gay porn film with more budget.

Society has never wanted the disabled.

Why are they still alive then.

As a disabled person myself I have seen it first hand, where someone will start speaking to me nicely, and as soon as they ask “what do you do?” and I tell them I’m disabled and unemployed, their entire attitude changes and they look at me with disdain and no longer want to talk to me.

Oh yes, I know that. The disdain in people if you tell them, that you are unemployment. However disabled and employed is usually way more fine. We could think about what the point is in hating unemployed people and if look into the bourgeois press, then you will probably find out why.

people who consider themselves good, kind people, passionately advocate for making the lives of the disabled more difficult.

Well who does not? This passionately advocating is not that often a result of malice in my opinion. Ignorance also exists. Same people will advocate to make life difficult for unemployed folk, poor or children. Its often how the ruling class reacts to a crisis, spreading misinformation, lies and hate. An important reason why immigrants are always the alleged source of doom. I mean it in an abstract way, it doesn’t matter where in the world.

remember during covid when the disabled who became sick were usually left to die while the able bodied were treated?

Didn’t know about that in Great Britain. I only know about triage and that only happens if the situation is rather catastrophic. If there are more patients then doctors, then the doctors have to decide who has to be treated. Often this are then younger people or people who will rather survive. Not something I would want to decide tbh.

We simply aren’t really considered people any more, we’re now just seen as parasites.

Seen by whom? I feel frustration in your words and understand where they are coming from. In my case I can’t agree with you, however from the standpoint of the bourgeois state, disabled people are of course parasites and nothing more. That’s also goes for everyone who needs access to welfare. Rather putting the money into the war machine. That’s a tendency in many countries right now.

Really humanity hasn’t progressed on from being animals, we’re treated the same way many animals treat a sick or injured pack member, trying to push them out of the group and get rid of them so they don’t drag the rest of the pack down by being a burden.

But that’s not the case. Not all animals are behaving this way. And speaking about humanity as whole while mentioning “progressed on from being animals” you are drifting into the human nature field. The working class had fought for so many things. Disability benefits are a part of it. The problem is capitalism, not our species, and this should never be forgotten. Encountering shitty difficulties in life, I someday come to the conclusion, that its the fault of capitalism.

Funny enough liberals are even fine with that. Its not rare to hear, that it was fine anyway to destroy the pipeline. Also the false dilemma is a joke: Either gas from the US or gas from Russia. Germany could keep the pipeline and addition still archive the switch to receiving gas via ship. Russia had nothing from destroying it, still this denial was crazy.

It is about believing that even when life feels like a never-ending Monday, things can get better.

Tbh the feeling of never-ending Sundays is something I know well. You have nothing to do today, but tomorrow will be a workday. Kind of paralysing. I rather start doing something, even if I am tired. Resting becomes difficult.