• corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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      Many countries, like America, had actual economic mobility. There was a time where working hard could improve your economic status.

      My family lost everything. Twice. Once to over-leveraging before a mortgage collapse in 83, and secondly to a house fire. We lived in an absolute fleabag of a moldy motel, a stereotype like you’d see on-screen, for about 10 months. The mold was so bad we had tiny mushrooms.

      We got back, both times, to a stable home life in a mortgage and a fresh start. Dad paid off his home before retirement, by working his absolute ass off.

      That’s just not feasible now, just one generation later.

      Anyway, there was a time when hard work did get you something; so treat that as a historical thing and not a falsehood.

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        treat that as a historical thing and not a falsehood.

        but it is a falsehood as it’s not longer correct. I agree there was a time it was true, but that time has passed and we should not be teaching it.

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      worse than that, if you do too good of a job you will be deemed too useful to promote, so not only will you be rewarded with more work but with career stagnation

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        until you are burnt out from overwork and can’t move positions because you are “too valuable in your current role”

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          so just quit. if you’re that good of a worker you’ll easily get another job, probably with better pay.

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            Not everyone has the luxury of quiting a job on a dime like that and constant rejections when looking for a new job while being dogpiled at work will not help someone’s mental state.

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                  i love fedi, everyone goes ‘no but u’

                  reminds me of 4th grade.

                  clearly fedi is full of very mature superintelligent linux users, who resort to grade school insults when you don’t agree with them.

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                    What are you talking about

                    People living paycheck to paycheck can’t just quit, and sometimes can’t even take time off to go to interviews and stuff. Living like this is often not a choice.

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                    I may not be the only one left in the 4th, after all you are the one that is trying to downgrade a complex issue with a “so just X”

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      I think it’s true, but I’m very few places. In the Marines, I was able to turn hard work into promotions, and now I’m regular life, I turn hard work into extra money, but only because I work for myself. So basically it only works in socialism or if you’re at the top of the ladder.