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While speaking on the final night of the GOP midterm convention, Vice President JD Vance said the country was “poorer” and “dirtier” before President Donald Trump was reelected for a second term.
“We were tired of being called racists for noticing that our country was becoming dirtier and poorer, and less safe and less prosperous,” Vance said on the final day of the two-day convention in Dallas, Texas.
His sentiment appeared to reflect the administration’s efforts to combat rising immigration rates in the U.S., a key campaign point during the 2024 election. Vance himself promoted unsubstantiated claims about Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, in September 2024, spreading misinformation about the community abducting and eating pets.
Nobody has made America dirtier or poorer than MAGA has.
American workers have been getting poorer since the 1970s.
Every President, bOtH pArTiEs, American workers are poorer.
Poland now has better benefits for their people, with benefits that most Americans will never see (and they’re paid almost as much, with less taxation, on a smaller budget).
Family leave (41 weeks!). Vacation time (20 days!!!). Universal healthcare. Sick leave. “Occasional” leave, for the love of God. Sounds nice.
I guess their labor party can do so much more with so much less, for some reason.
https://www.dudkowiak.com/employment-law-in-poland/employee-benefits-in-poland
The billionaires are the only group of “welfare queens” making the world a dirtier place.
Whether or not America was “dirtier and poorer” before Trump is immaterial here. Ascribing that to immigrants and people who look like immigrants is racist.
I’m sure they are tired of being called racist, but that doesn’t mean it’s not true.
It also wasn’t “less safe”, violent crime has been dropping for quite a while in most areas
No the FBI changed the definition of violent crime under Biden administration and have specifically ignored certain areas to bias the numbers.
Even if we pretend that is true, the statement you are responding to is about statistics that predate Biden… by decades. Violent crime has been going down since the 90s. On average people are probably safer today than they were fifty or even thirty years ago.
Is there a place I can get the raw data? That’s what I want raw data
When I showed you evidence of the Iron River getting thousands of Mexicans killed under American-made guns, 30,000+ of them every year plus another 20,000+ if you count the depression, misery and poverty an environment like that causes, the cardiovascular and neurological diseases it causes on the poorest and most vulnerable, and how angry I was at that injustice, and the fact you have killed my family in the Middle East and Mexico, you kept gaslighting and then replied with this:
Why should anyone give a MAGA like you raw data? You are a piece of shit who denies reality.
Nice! I shall see for myself
When I showed you evidence of the Iron River getting thousands of Mexicans killed under American-made guns, 30,000+ of them every year plus another 20,000+ if you count the depression, misery and poverty an environment like that causes, the cardiovascular and neurological diseases it causes on the poorest and most vulnerable, and how angry I was at that injustice, and the fact you have killed my family in the Middle East and Mexico, you kept gaslighting and then replied with this:
Why should anyone give a MAGA like you raw data? You are a piece of shit who denies reality and ignores the deaths of minorities.
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Also, not to engage with the point too much, but what do they think of Muslim immigrants? Ethnically speaking, people from that culture is particularly strict on cleanliness.
When they say dirty, they don’t actually mean hygiene. They mean melatonin.
I mean I know what they think of them, sigh, I don’t know who I pretend there’s even a kernel of a good faith argument here
Ah perpetual victimhood
“Poorer and dirtier” says guy proud to claim that he was raised as white trash.
source: was also raised white trash, but did manage to develop class consciousness.
says guy proud to claim that he was raised as white trash
Guy who was actually not raised as “white trash”, and who has been lying and changing his tune constantly throughout his public life.
Elvis Jell-O molds are MY CULTURE, VANCE, NOT YOURS
Exactly. A true conman at heart.
congrats on starting your journey to recovery.
The Turd Reich
The U.S. has become safer and safer every decade since the 90s. It didn’t matter who was president…always safer.
“We are tired of being called racists for noticing America is getting dirty. Call us racist because we view people who are different than us as inherently lesser.”
I mean, not to get too deep into the weeds here but it seems like he’s literally saying dirtier because of the people in it, not like trash dirtier. It’s not even a misdirect on the phrase it’s a straight up dogwhitsle calling poor people dirty and equating that to non-white people. Your analysis is pretty spot on but more specifically “ Call us racist because we view people who are different than us as inherently dirtier. “ which is straight out of hitlers handbook. Almost like Trump has said handbook nearby, at the ready, like at his bedside table or something…
Totally agree, thinly veiled racism is this administration’s calling card.
That’s what I’m saying tho it’s not thin. It’s not barley even a dog whistle but we’ve pulled that window so far right that saying America is dirty (not trash, but literally the people) is just blatant racism. And you got some guy in here saying it’s paranoia. Ha
Here we go with the dog whistle bullshit.
do you think racists don’t use dog whistles? or that Republicans haven’t been using racist dog whistles since the southern strategy?
It’s democratic paranoia.
I didn’t even think conservatives could find their way out here. Fascinating. Do you think dogwhistles don’t exist? Cuz I see dudes around who have em tattooed on them… even tho thier tat doesn’t say heil Hitler, it says 1488, it’s literally what it means. It’s called a dog whistle because it’s meaningless unless you know what the true intentions are.
(Or quite literally, you blow a whistle only dogs can hear, meaning you can only “hear it” if you’re a certain kind of person that’s “in the know”) Trump does it all the time, too, I can prove it if needed. Usually I wouldn’t explain the concept but if you’re a right winger it’s gonna be totally necessary for this conversation to work out.
it would be great if you could answer the question. Are you saying Dog whistles don’t exist? are you claiming the Republican party hasn’t been using dog whistles since the southern strategy of Nixon’s third presidential campaign?
In the past year, I’ve been called racist, commie, Trumper, Nazi, transphobic, tankie, fascist, fundamentalist, sexist, and Satanist.
Buck up Vance, you little bitch
Retard
Sure thing Just Dumb Racist. It is shocking to see voters that continue to support the racist neo-Nazi losers that are making every attempt to weaken the USA.
JD Vance: “Am I racist for wanting those filthy dirty Haitians to take a shower and go back to their country?”
We see where all the money went dipshit
And “average” Americans continue not caring.
So here is the thing. Fox News is abhorrent, its a fact. Except, Fox didnt create these monsters from thin air. In fact, Id bet it was years of probing and market research to maximize viewership that manifested their siren song.
The way I see it, fox just wants control. They have no ideology but will mask how ever the public wants to get them to listen. Once they have the right mask they start programming.
This is a long way of saying if racism wasnt just an inherent trait of being evil it could have been anything else and people like trump or vance would play along to get their way.
I’m not sure if fox is to blame here. I think a lot of it is citizens continually seeing corruption in the government. Politicians can do whatever they want and get away with it. Insider trading, tax fund laundering, everything. And people see their money get taken from them and go to absolutely nothing. NOTHING.
Fox obfuscates the corruption…
It is getting dirtier and poorer, and all the guys responsible sat pride-of-place at the inauguration.
