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      I just read her wiki page. I don’t understand how you can say “Obama did this” too. It seemed like everyone was cancelling her. Also, Obama didn’t kick her out, she retired.

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        Just more disingenuous “both sides” bullshit.

        How can a person legitimately believe that these things are even close to the same thing? Either they simply haven’t read (and comprehended) the OP article, or they’re being purposely disingenuous.

        If Obama even suggested doing what Trump did here, Congress would have immediately brought articles of impeachment against him.

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        She was forced to retire. Saying Obama’s administration had nothing to do with it seems a little naive, but whatever makes you feel better.

        She died three years later, and I can’t help but think that was also related. The WH press pool was her life.

        All U.S. Presidents are scum, some just more than others.

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          She died three years later, and I can’t help but think that was also related. The WH press pool was her life.

          Shocking that a 92 year old woman would just up and die like that.

          You wanna keep Mitch McConnell around too? He’s been in the senate so long; it would be a shame to make him quit.

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              It’s not, their both old ass shit, it’s a natural conclusion to make, especially when their not doing anything anymore.

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                Apparently, she did something. It got her fired.

                I don’t think this kneejerk reaction to defending a genocidal administration is helpful to anyone but those enacting genocide.

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      I honestly think your downvotes are because you didn’t explain how these two things are connected. I also just glanced through the Wikipedia article and like…based.

      During the speech, Thomas said: “Congress, the White House, Hollywood and Wall Street are owned by Zionists. No question, in my opinion.”[78][81] Thomas defended her comments on December 7, telling Scott Spears of Marion, Ohio radio station WMRN, “I just think that people should be enlightened as to who is in charge of the opinion in this country.”

      And then like the ADL cancels her and it’s all just kind of what we’re doing now but 16 years ago before most of us USians knew that Israel was a genocidal fascist state.

      The next day, the Anti-Defamation League called for journalism schools and organizations to rescind any honors given to Thomas. The organization said that Thomas had “clearly, unequivocally revealed herself as a vulgar antisemite” in the speech.[83] Wayne State University in Detroit discontinued the Helen Thomas Spirit of Diversity in Media Award, which it had been granting for more than ten years, citing what it called her antisemitic remarks.[78] Thomas objected, saying that “the leaders of Wayne State University have made a mockery of the First Amendment and disgraced their understanding of its inherent freedom of speech and the press.”[84] Asked by the Detroit Free Press how she would respond to people who say she is antisemitic, Thomas responded: ‘I’d say I’m a Semite. What are you talking about?’"

      Unless there is something else in the controversy it seems like she spoke the truth about Israel 16 years ago and had her reputation drug through the mud for it. She spoke truth to power and it sure seems like the power tried to crush her for it.

      OC, you just gave a very “both sides” sounding example with 0 context for those not already in the know. Some of us are still learning or have brains with the retention of a sieve, provide context and you’ll likely see a more positive response.

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      a pound of hamburger costs more than minimum wage under republican rule, gas is through the roof, food safety is gone, and our first amendment rights are impacted because the press is banned from asking questions

      not to mention the never ending war we’re in now the actual war crimes committed and how bad we look on the world stage

      but yeah, “Obama did this with Helen Thomas and no fucks we’re given”

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        I think it’s worth mentioning, especially for why she was kicked out and why Trump won, the Democrats support for a genocidal occupation.

        We should all say her name. We should all strive to be more like her.

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        I’ve gotten so goddamn sick of this fucking double standard. It’s present everywhere, and has been instrumental in allowing fascism to take control of our country.