Edited to add - To be clear for anyone, it’s Oligarchs/Billionaires paired with rampant, unfettered corporate greed. (at least in my view)
Someone reminded me that I was using dogwhistle parlance in my use of they which may have suggested otherwise.
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The education being a debt trap is at least in part due to good intentions gone wrong.
College was a little expensive and they wanted it more accessible, so they tried to make it nice and easy to borrow money.
Universities responded to the influx of cash by… Charging more money…
We tried to fix affordability by just flooding that market with loans with no regulation in place to constrain the universities or the loans.
A truly free market will always result in total monopoly. There is no such thing as a “free market” and capitalism is evil. Everything about society is a human construct built by humans and can be rebuilt by other humans. We can create a just society.
Your political affiliation based on what came to your mind when you read the title
At this point the answer should be billionaires regardless of affiliation.
A) What the fuck are billionaires? The bourgeoisie.
B) What facilitates this perversion? The bourgeois system.
Billionaires aren’t the problem they’re the symptoms of disease. Rejection of this fact shows the early stages of your radicalization.
I think the libertarian left quadrant is the only valid one, and it’s become very obvious at this point
The global economy is this monster of debt and overly clever math that is actively collapsing, there’s no fixing it, and even if we did somehow, each boom-bust is exponentially larger than the last one
And if you take the economy out of the equation, it’s a really simple question. Do you want people to suffer or not? Are you pro-horrors beyond comprehension, or do you prefer less suffering?
So yep… We should all be calling them the billionaires at this point
Found the Left-Libertarian
lol. I get the joke. Still, I just think anyone work a working brain should be able to notice that
- the bourgeoise just follows their masters
- neither Bezos nor Musk are Jews
- that “we” are not powerful enough unless we’re billionaires
You can hate Jews, brown people, black people, gingers, trans people and others as much as you want and still recognize that.
Unless your brain isn’t working right (eg MAGA) or you are economically benefiting (eg bourgeoisie). I guess you could put that onto a 2d graph as well.
Everyone believes that their hatred is more righteous than everyone else’s.
Saying left libertarian is like saying anarcho-capitalist but it sounds dumber.
anarcho-communist sounds even more retarded tbh
It means non-authoritarian and anti-capitalist. The US version of libertarian, which are just capitalists that want the market to be the government, is not the definition of the word.
is not the definition of the word.
Unfortunately, though, it is now. At least here.
On that note, you know many words have multiple definitions, so even if a definition colloquially exists, that differs from the one of most wide use, doesn’t mean that in that local, the wider use case is suddenly void.
“It’s both sides”
If you’re talking about American politics, then yes, both parties uphold capitalism and its innate unjust power structures.
You can vote for the lesser evil all day, but in the end it will take revolution to root out evil entirely.
you think ‘they’ means multiple people or a group, but ‘they’ is actually ME!! I DID IT!!
Dammit, burgerpocalypse! How could you‽
I beg of you, please stop. Please end this suffering.
please stop doing capitalism mr burgerpocalypse
I know this isn’t what you intended, but you gotta be careful on the Internet saying ‘guess who ‘they’ are’, cos a lotta places on the Internet ask this and the answer is supposed to be ‘jews’
Yes, that’s a great point that I hadn’t considered.
To be clear for anyone, it’s Oligarchs/Billionaires paired with rampant, unfettered corporate greed. (at least in my view)
Yeah I can’t think what else OP could mean though? All the other answers I can think of are too broad and obvious for “three guesses” to be a thing you’d ask.
One would need to be way out there deep into White Supremacist/Nazi territory to think “Jews” is the answer to that “riddle”.
Whilst the Far-Right is in resurgence in the West, they’re way more likely to be rabidly anti-Immigrant and Islamophobic than they are rabidly anti-Semitic, so I would be massively surprised that here in Lemmy there were more than a handful (if any at all) of people who read that and thought that was actually the answer (and no, thinking it might be misinterpreted as such isn’t the same as actually thinking that’s actually the answer)
I thought it was the lizard people?
What did you think that was a euphemism for?
The illuminati?
Is this seriously a euphemism for Jewish people? I thought it was just a funny conspiracy theory.
It’s both, depending on the specific conspiracy theorists.
Just like not all “infowarriors” know that “the globalists” means “the Jews” and “populist” means “rich, white, racist” in the code of Alex Jones.
And what does “frogs” and “gay” mean in the code of Alex Jones?
The end of that one Brother Ali song, I have no idea who the vocalist for that part is.
They keep sayin’ we’re free…
But we’re all just loose.
The F’d up thing is that being solid middle class and having sufficient income to help with a kid’s college money, put away money to actually retire, and pay a mortgage is top 10%. That’s literally what middle class was 50 years ago. Now you have to be a ~10%-er to do it.
And that isn’t an accident. It’s by design.
It’s a race to the bottom. Go look for a job now. Your best offers are less than half what they should be. They want masters degrees and a decade of experience for “entry level” work. The more desperately poor people there are the less they can offer to recruit. Less pay, fewer benefits.
Society works exactly as expected for the capitalists. At the end of the day we’re only dollars to them.
Often both political parties answer to capitalist with Representatives that are also capitalists with absolutely no way to force them to answer to the people.
It’s time to let this system go and switch to something new. Electoralism will not save us.
That’s funny because primary turnout is generally appalling, and still bad in general elections.
Oh so you have a magic switch that’s going to make everybody come out and vote right?
Because a ton of people have been burned by already trying to vote to fix the system That does not want to be fixed.
Oh so your magic switch is a new party in a fptp system or revolution? Good luck with that.
So why make a comment about voter turnout when voter turnout has never been good in a country where the government does not represent the will of the people.
Good luck trying to get all the apathetic people who have been screwed so so much by the system that won’t help them to vote.
That’s for sure going to be easier than talking to people about the reason why our system sucks and building a new one. 🤙
Time to do a socialism.
I think literally any type of socialist system will be better than what we have 😮💨
Man, fuck all that. “Socialists” just let authoritarians into power who then never let go. Your revolution will just leave a warlord in a Che shirt.
Democratic governments with strong social safety nets and robust middle classes are consistently capitalistic. Do you have an example otherwise?
edit: 20 minutes, four downvotes, and zero examples otherwise.
edit: maybe I’ve blocked 10 authoritarian tankies that I cannot read their replies. Hmm.
Like we aren’t already living in an authoritarian hell hole where the government doesnt represent the will of the people.
Democratic governments have a strong safety net? Really? Better tell then nearly a million homeless in the richest country in the world that they have better social nets then china, cuba, USSR which all guaranteed a home for everyone to live in. Hell there is still a guarantee in the Russian constitution which is better then non-acknowledgement of the US.
Did you notice how the global south is still poor and has major issues and just about every fucking country is a Democratic government?
Calling Che Guvera a dictator is hilarious since he died fighting for Revolution in Bolivia after he helped free Cuba from the US imperialist grip. Definitely the actions of a power hungry dictator that already won power in an island nation.
You still haven’t done any fucking reading. Could you stop with the fucking NATO, imperialist propaganda please. If you aren’t then at least get more informed. Your embarssing to all the other boot lickers.
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Cuba has a strong protections for its people and a growing economy due to trade with the BRICS alliance.
China has uplifted millions out of poverty before capitalism was introduced in the 1990s
Rojava is doing well for itself considering its location in northern Syria.
Wow. Where to start?
Democratic governments have a strong safety net?
Like FDR.
Did you notice how the global south is still poor and has major issues and just about every fucking country is a Democratic government?
<citation needed>
Calling Che Guvera a dictator is hilarious
No, I call Che Guevara a silly commie.
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lol
