• Skullgrid@lemmy.world
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    26 days ago

    Polish resistence efforts also get sidelined in WW2 history, especially work for the enigma machine decoding efforts.

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    26 days ago

    Wasn’t there a Swedish nobelman too?

    Crazy times.

    BTW all I know is that Russia didn’t help. I’m stating it as the Kremlin is trying to push that narrative right now.

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      26 days ago

      There were a lot of foreign adventurers who found a place in the Continental Army. I’m not aware of any prominent Russians, though the Russian Empire did mediate the final peace negotiations, I believe, as a neutral party.

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        26 days ago

        John Paul Jones, America’s legendary naval hero, served in the Russian Navy in 1788. After the American Revolution, he was idle in Paris, where he attracted the attention of Russia’s Empress Catherine the Great. She needed “another bulldog” for her war against the Ottoman Turks, and wanted Jones “to make the Seraglio tremble”. Jones spent nearly a decade in France, awaiting the command of a new American ship and performing certain diplomatic duties. Eventually, frustrated by delays, he accepted an offer from the court of Catherine the Great to join the Imperial Russian Navy campaigning in the Black Sea during the Russo-Turkish War of 1787 to 1792.

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          America’s legendary naval hero

          Yeah… I’d hesitate to label him as a “hero” considering he was also a slaver and a child rapist.

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            26 days ago

            Both things can be true. Heroes are not always (maybe rarely) good people. Especially so for war heroes.

            • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
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              Ehh… If you want to proclaim your hero is the rapist of a 10 year old girl feel free I guess?

              There’s a difference between the morally gray of acts committed in war, and the rape of a 10 year old girl. Which was morally reprehensible even in the perspective of 1700’s Russian society.

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                26 days ago

                He’s not my personal hero at all, never heard of the dude.

                Just saying that a horrible piece of shit can still do heroic things, even if awful deeds outshine them. I’d say that those heroic deeds by definition makes them a hero, even if it’s only in a narrow context as “American naval warfare”.

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                  I’d say that those heroic deeds by definition makes them a hero, even if it’s only in a narrow context as “American naval warfare”.

                  Again, no one is forcing you to call a child rapist a hero… It’s a pretty wild move imo.

                  By your own definition…is Hitler also a hero?

                  I think maybe it’s important when mantling someone with the title of “hero” that we weigh the positive and the negative aspects of their contributions, otherwise it can get awkward.