• KatakiY@lemmy.world
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    26 days ago

    Honestly, seriously. Would harm reduction have happened if Kamala was elected. Yes. Did I personally core for her? Yes.

    Did this get them elected? No? Shut the fuck up and stop blaming voters because the Democrats don’t know how to do politics on purpose so they don’t lose their bribes.

    Want a better analogy? There’s a bus driving for a cliff and one group votes to minimize the impact of driving off the cliff while another group says please please drive faster off the cliff and do a backflip. A third group says guys, can we perhaps maybe not drive off the cliffd? And the rest call them insane and drive off the cliff

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      26 days ago

      I blame both. The Democratic Party and everybody who did not vote for them. My heart is big, there is enough room to hate everyone!

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        25 days ago

        Do you think Republican politics have the slightest responsibilities or none at all? I think all this thread, and the analogy itself plays into polarization, which is not a good way to actually put the much needed bridges… Everyone can do a lot. There are plenty of tasks and battles. Voting is one, very relevant every X many years. Focus on the everyday too. And on every neighbor. All needs should be covered. Do your best. Allow yourself to rest. We can do this.

    • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOP
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      26 days ago

      Honestly, seriously. Would harm reduction have happened if Kamala was elected. Yes. Did I personally core for her? Yes.

      Did this get them elected? No?

      What’s the relevance of this inane statement, again?

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      Bad ice ream is still better than driving off a cliff. You can tell me all day how bad the ice cream is and how shitty the place is because they don’t even try to make good ice cream, they don’t even try to get customers or do a good job. It’s still better than driving off a cliff. I wouldn’t blame the ice cream store for making shitty when people choose not to vote for it. They knew the alternative and still decided to leave it up to fate.

      Sure, a nice ice cream shop is easier to get people to vote on, but when the alternative is going off a cliff, the ice cream is kind of a moot point. But sure, let’s blame the ice cream shop for not being attractive enough when anything but going off the cliff should be the obvious choice. Yes, the ice cream shop could have made it easier, but any sane person can see she obvious choice.

      Let’s put it this way. If one side is saying they will kill everyone who isn’t straight and white, and the other side says they want to ban gay marriage. Now I think queer rights is really important but I would vote for the second to prevent the firsr. But people seem to be screaming “I’m never voting against gay rights!” Cool, so when the other guy wins and it’s way worse, at least you feel good.

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    26 days ago

    The ice cream no longer exists. It hasn’t existed for a long time, and no amount of wishing will bring it back.

    I want ice cream, too. But before we can have ice cream again, we need to not die.

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    Interesting… but the ice cream is supporting genocide. Some would rather die than vote for that. And I guess it could be argued that at least the people dieing by going over the cliff had a chance to vote. The ones dieing from genocide didn’t.

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      25 days ago

      Some would rather die than vote for that.

      Cool. Unfortunately, the other option is intensified Palestinian genocide and additional genocides at home and abroad.

      So it’s more “Some would rather more Palestinians die than vote”.

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        Since the outcome of the election was unknown at the time of the vote, no it isn’t as you say. Only after the fact can you say that not voting was a vote for trump. At the time, not voting was refusing to vote for either candidate that would continue the genocide.

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    Everyone’s upset about the vegan ice cream voters not voting for regular ice cream.

    No one is upset at the regular ice cream people for being unwilling to vote for a vegan ice cream place because their choice is default in their mind.

    Both sides are holding each other hostage. One has a moral reason and the other just doesn’t want to compromise.

    And yet.

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    This is why the Democratic Party sucks so bad. The never offered people something to vote for. They didn’t even offer something harmless - they only ever offered to drive off a cliff more slowly. When in power, they never did anything against the DHS, the MIC, ICE, the Patriot Act. They didn’t even talk about fighting landlords, the bosses, the rich. The Dems even refused police reform, instead increasing budgets. The only thing the party elites ever fought fiercely is Bernie Sanders and the progressive caucus.

    The Democratic Party is just as much to blame for Trump as the GOP. Stop blaming progressives for this miserable one party state - start holding your politicians accountable.

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      Stop blaming the broken system on your passive complicity with the violation of human rights for minorities.

      You’d let it all fall down even if it meant tens of thousands of POC and queer lives being destroyed in the process.

      Your accelerationism hurts us long before it ever hurts you, which is kind of one of the points of OP’s meme tbh.

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        There’s a lot of assumptions in your angry reply - and you should be angry. Just not at principled progressives, among them a lot of POC and queer folks, who did not vote for a party that never really did anything for them. You should try to overcome your naivete and accept the obvious - that this current development was inevitable with a Democratic party that is only different from Republicans in the sense that they keep up an act of civility that only ever applies to conservatives. Just look how vile the party establishment attacks Mamdani but had no problems compromising with, and clapping for Trump.

        Stop attacking leftists and start forming coalitions (but this time NOT with blue conservatives), because the time when you had the luxury to do so has passed.