U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement has earmarked millions of dollars for a bulk order for 20 armoured vehicles from Canadian defence manufacturer Roshel that are built to resist bullets and bomb blasts.
“Hasn’t cut much?” He’s cut everything. Of course the conservatives have been forced to promise deeper cuts than the Liberals because the Liberals occupied all their policy positions.
No, cancelling taxes, cutting government across the board, putting the private sector in charge of housing and privatizing pipelines isn’t “moving to the centre”.
Guessing you’re a Liberal…because you’re repeating their PR.
Literally, it’s just public servants. Read the damn budget - or a summary of the damn budget - if you actually care about the truth.
I could point out the gaps in the plan there are, to prove I’m not shilling, but I’m guessing you’d just see that grace as weakness. I have better things to do than that kind of exchange.
I’m not sure what you mean by “just public servants”. I mean…that’s not true…but, yes, austerity governments tend to salivate when they look at salaries as a line-item, and cut labour…because it’s the biggest and bluntest instrument you can show cuts with. But less people means less services - as well as less citizens making a decent wage means a lower bar for the industry. Just take housing…promises promises on units…but actual cuts to the ministry of housing…and his plan, by all appearance, is to infuse the private sector with tax dollars, offload services to the private sector, and provide bubble protection to its investors: when these government jobs are transferred to the private sector, they will come with wage reductions, reduced labour protections, much less transparency and accountability, less customer service, and more AI & automation. With additional cuts to veterans affairs and the CRA (all seeing the same effect as staff cuts do Canadian labour health)…this budget would be indistinguishable from a conservative budget…if it weren’t for the deep 10-15% cuts (I predict those will expand as they get drunk on how it makes their budgets look), which sets it “above” (below!) conservative budgets.
When I said you were speaking like a liberal it was in response to “tricking” Alberta into increasing the carbon tax. The only time I’ve seen the lead buried that deeply is in LPC press material and from its surrogates. Because, as we’ve seen in conservative projects, the perversely named “Build Canada Act” is an “abundance” act that removes environmental/indigenous consultation and regional sovereignty….all while privatizing the project. Yes, there’s lip service and no concrete plan to share royalties with the indigenous lands they pillage - an excellent way to drive a wedge between the IA councils and hereditary councils. There’s always been a form of taxation on tar sands exports…so describing the deal that they worked out (what amounts to an updated royalties deal - it’s dubious the math will math into an increase for Canada) as “tricking” Alberta is just incorrect. Canada is paying for a gift to Alberta and the private sector, for very little return…is the accurate headline.
Trudeau, for as much of a neoliberal as he was, traded boutique service expansions off with his private-public partnerships. Trudeau wanted to increase the capital gains tax and nationalize a pipeline. Trudeau had pet projects like equity and safe drinking water. Trudeau was still nudging Canada right, at large - but at least it wasn’t a disaster. Describing Carney as moving Canada toward the centre is absurd, considering what he’s actually doing. All of Trudeaus trade-offs and pet projects are gone…and it’s all austerity and cynicism now. If these are our supposed liberals…wait til we see how the party in waiting has to reposition themselves to the right of them: yea, what Pollievre is currently virtue signalling to his Rebel News subscribers is absolutely terrifying…but it’s only possible because Carney made many of his previous election promises come true.
Yeah, since you’re not being a dick, I have to agree. Nobody remotely objective says the federal government seems overstaffed, kinda the opposite, and Carney seems to really believe in AI as magic pixie dust. They’re probably going to have to scale back their plans once rubber hits the road, and we’ll either get a bigger deficit or new taxes.
What they didn’t cut was everything else. My teeth are still covered, for example. That would not be true of a Conservative budget, which would also cut back things that have been around for decades rather than years, like the CBC.
When I said you were speaking like a liberal it was in response to “tricking” Alberta into increasing the carbon tax. The only time I’ve seen the lead buried that deeply is in LPC press material and from its surrogates. Because…
Hey, some of what you’re saying sounds like an NDP or Green press release. And I’m pretty sure “everyone won” is the current Liberal line, not “we suckered somebody”.
Sure, oil companies win on certain things. They also have to pay a higher carbon tax, which is a big win for the climate. We’ll see if anything comes from Pathways, which would mostly be a win for the climate. Danielle Smith just loses.
Describing Carney as moving Canada toward the centre is absurd, considering what he’s actually doing.
Trudeau was the first or second most left-wing PM ever. What’s to the right of the left?
All of Trudeaus trade-offs and pet projects are gone
The water treatment project is still underway if delayed again; the tree planting will stop at the original billion but it’s not gone. The carbon tax is only gone for consumers. And, like mentioned, dental/pharma care are still around, although that was an NDP policy.
You’re arguing that the conservatives are worse…I agree with that.
I’m arguing that the Liberals acting like conservatives makes the conservatives tack even further to the right, and we slide and slide into late stage capitalist hell.
Trudeau was to the right of Mulroney and on-par with Harper…you’re just cold-trippin’. He’s not even in the too 10 most-leftist. Now it sounds like I’m listening to conservative propaganda. Totally nuts. Conservative Icon Diefenbaker was more socialist than Trudeau Jr…as was Trudeau Sr, and Pearson, and MacKenzie King, etcetcetc
Dental care was an NDP policy…let’s not rewrite history and forget we literally had a snap election because Trudeau initially didn’t want to pass it.
I was there for Harper; remember the barbaric cultural practices hotline? Remember the fisheries library just being tossed? The only contender for further left is Lester Pearson (by the standards of his time), who brought in the healthcare system. I’m not even being original here, it’s pretty standardly what you’d hear from a pundit.
I’m arguing that the Liberals acting like conservatives makes the conservatives tack even further to the right, and we slide and slide into late stage capitalist hell.
Just looking around the world, I’m certain the right is pulling, not being pushed.
OP said he’s cut everything. No, no he did not. He cut public servant jobs. All kinds of programs were untouched, including the new NDP-sponsored ones.
Which, you’ll notice, says nothing either way about whether that’s desirable.
“Hasn’t cut much?” He’s cut everything. Of course the conservatives have been forced to promise deeper cuts than the Liberals because the Liberals occupied all their policy positions.
No, cancelling taxes, cutting government across the board, putting the private sector in charge of housing and privatizing pipelines isn’t “moving to the centre”.
Guessing you’re a Liberal…because you’re repeating their PR.
Literally, it’s just public servants. Read the damn budget - or a summary of the damn budget - if you actually care about the truth.
I could point out the gaps in the plan there are, to prove I’m not shilling, but I’m guessing you’d just see that grace as weakness. I have better things to do than that kind of exchange.
I’m not sure what you mean by “just public servants”. I mean…that’s not true…but, yes, austerity governments tend to salivate when they look at salaries as a line-item, and cut labour…because it’s the biggest and bluntest instrument you can show cuts with. But less people means less services - as well as less citizens making a decent wage means a lower bar for the industry. Just take housing…promises promises on units…but actual cuts to the ministry of housing…and his plan, by all appearance, is to infuse the private sector with tax dollars, offload services to the private sector, and provide bubble protection to its investors: when these government jobs are transferred to the private sector, they will come with wage reductions, reduced labour protections, much less transparency and accountability, less customer service, and more AI & automation. With additional cuts to veterans affairs and the CRA (all seeing the same effect as staff cuts do Canadian labour health)…this budget would be indistinguishable from a conservative budget…if it weren’t for the deep 10-15% cuts (I predict those will expand as they get drunk on how it makes their budgets look), which sets it “above” (below!) conservative budgets.
When I said you were speaking like a liberal it was in response to “tricking” Alberta into increasing the carbon tax. The only time I’ve seen the lead buried that deeply is in LPC press material and from its surrogates. Because, as we’ve seen in conservative projects, the perversely named “Build Canada Act” is an “abundance” act that removes environmental/indigenous consultation and regional sovereignty….all while privatizing the project. Yes, there’s lip service and no concrete plan to share royalties with the indigenous lands they pillage - an excellent way to drive a wedge between the IA councils and hereditary councils. There’s always been a form of taxation on tar sands exports…so describing the deal that they worked out (what amounts to an updated royalties deal - it’s dubious the math will math into an increase for Canada) as “tricking” Alberta is just incorrect. Canada is paying for a gift to Alberta and the private sector, for very little return…is the accurate headline.
Trudeau, for as much of a neoliberal as he was, traded boutique service expansions off with his private-public partnerships. Trudeau wanted to increase the capital gains tax and nationalize a pipeline. Trudeau had pet projects like equity and safe drinking water. Trudeau was still nudging Canada right, at large - but at least it wasn’t a disaster. Describing Carney as moving Canada toward the centre is absurd, considering what he’s actually doing. All of Trudeaus trade-offs and pet projects are gone…and it’s all austerity and cynicism now. If these are our supposed liberals…wait til we see how the party in waiting has to reposition themselves to the right of them: yea, what Pollievre is currently virtue signalling to his Rebel News subscribers is absolutely terrifying…but it’s only possible because Carney made many of his previous election promises come true.
Yeah, since you’re not being a dick, I have to agree. Nobody remotely objective says the federal government seems overstaffed, kinda the opposite, and Carney seems to really believe in AI as magic pixie dust. They’re probably going to have to scale back their plans once rubber hits the road, and we’ll either get a bigger deficit or new taxes.
What they didn’t cut was everything else. My teeth are still covered, for example. That would not be true of a Conservative budget, which would also cut back things that have been around for decades rather than years, like the CBC.
Hey, some of what you’re saying sounds like an NDP or Green press release. And I’m pretty sure “everyone won” is the current Liberal line, not “we suckered somebody”.
Sure, oil companies win on certain things. They also have to pay a higher carbon tax, which is a big win for the climate. We’ll see if anything comes from Pathways, which would mostly be a win for the climate. Danielle Smith just loses.
Trudeau was the first or second most left-wing PM ever. What’s to the right of the left?
The water treatment project is still underway if delayed again; the tree planting will stop at the original billion but it’s not gone. The carbon tax is only gone for consumers. And, like mentioned, dental/pharma care are still around, although that was an NDP policy.
You’re arguing that the conservatives are worse…I agree with that.
I’m arguing that the Liberals acting like conservatives makes the conservatives tack even further to the right, and we slide and slide into late stage capitalist hell.
Trudeau was to the right of Mulroney and on-par with Harper…you’re just cold-trippin’. He’s not even in the too 10 most-leftist. Now it sounds like I’m listening to conservative propaganda. Totally nuts. Conservative Icon Diefenbaker was more socialist than Trudeau Jr…as was Trudeau Sr, and Pearson, and MacKenzie King, etcetcetc
Dental care was an NDP policy…let’s not rewrite history and forget we literally had a snap election because Trudeau initially didn’t want to pass it.
I was there for Harper; remember the barbaric cultural practices hotline? Remember the fisheries library just being tossed? The only contender for further left is Lester Pearson (by the standards of his time), who brought in the healthcare system. I’m not even being original here, it’s pretty standardly what you’d hear from a pundit.
Just looking around the world, I’m certain the right is pulling, not being pushed.
Oh I see… fuck them then, amiright?
I never said that.
I quoted you previous post, this is what you said… you even prefaced it as “Literally”
The word fuck was not in there. Nor any other invective or departure from pure fact.
So what did you mean exactly?
You answered:
When someone challenged your assertion that Carney had not made deep cuts
OP said he’s cut everything. No, no he did not. He cut public servant jobs. All kinds of programs were untouched, including the new NDP-sponsored ones.
Which, you’ll notice, says nothing either way about whether that’s desirable.
The fact you added “just” does imply you thought the cuts were limited or unimportant
You can play semantics bud but your posts paint a clear picture