they are doing their part. the rainfall one isn’t even turned on.
and this is clearly only on medium pressure, too
Oh but it is. They’re showering in the main bathroom. This one is just for ceremonial purposes, it runs 24/7.
Do billionaires ask people to save water? I’m not sure most billionaires really care how much water they or anyone else uses. I don’t think most billionaires even pretend to be conservationists.
This does save water because the water comes out at 1200psi and cleans them in less than a second so only a pint of water is used.
This is an argument for cynicism and inaction. And it’s servile boot-licking to insist that wealthy people should set moral cultural standards for the rest of us.
I live in the southwest US, water saving measures for households are basically as good as they can get without asking people to stop bathing every day. And really it’s not household use (even wasteful household use) here that threatens aquifers, it’s relentless pumping of ground water and overuse of river water for agriculture. In California in particular this is tied up with water rights that allow farmers to use excessive amounts of water with minimal or no cost associated with it. Not all of what’s grown is even a food product either, ex alfalfa.
Obviously we need farms and food, but we have to modernize how plants are watered to minimize water loss. Drip irrigation is much more effective, but since it costs more money than just flooding a ditch many farmers don’t bother.
Isn’t CA craziest water user the almond industry? Other than data center bullshit.
Household use is 5 million acre feet/ year in CA. Almond use is 6.8 million acre feet. Alfalfa and other crops to feed cattle is about 8 million acre feet.
An acre foot is 325,851 gallons, or how much water it takes to cover an acre in a foot of water.
As long as animal agriculture exists in the state that’ll pretty much always be a bigger water user. But they’re not low water plants for sure.
Supposedly the almond farming industry uses somewhere between several times more to dozens of times more water than data centers
That is a data center investment hype blog. It’s also dishonest to compare resources used growing food to resources used so that Chase in accounting can generate a nude image of someone, fake reports, etc.
I love almonds but we should not be unsustainably subsidizing their production by allowing farmers to massively deplete aquifers with little costs borne on their part because their great great great grandpappy happened to settle early enough to get a disproportionate share of the water rights. If they have to shoulder that cost then they have a reason to grow more water efficient crops rather than spamming almonds.
Farmers effectively mining out the groundwater below them can be really bad in areas that recharge those aquifers very slowly, particularly since that changes the soil to be more compacted such that instead of filtering down and recharging the groundwater the water instead piles up on the surface and runs off as floodwaters to areas unfortunate enough to be downstream.
Absolutely true for all of that (and I talked about some of these issues in my earlier comment), but anyone listening to data center bros telling them x crop is SO bad because it consumes SO much water is listening to a wolf talk about how the sheep don’t eat enough. They aren’t interested in restoring the ecosystem, they want that water for themselves.
Ok, but they give sources and get into the numbers, and out of all the articles on the first page of seach results about the comparison that I looked at it seemed like the best source. The point isn’t that almonds are worse than data centers, I just don’t think the specific claim that almonds use less water than data centers is true and so I am refuting it. I didn’t find any sources that tried to support that claim, but I’d read them if you know of any.
One of those things provides food and drink products for people, and the other is degrading our collective ability to think critically while providing literally nothing of value.
Yes, almond farming is an issue, but it’s not even on the same level
If you want to put the comparison into its larger context that’s great, I just think it’s important to not pretend like the numbers are something other than they are.
It’s just calling out hypocrisy… It’s not making a claim that others shouldn’t engage in conservation just because billionaires won’t.
Calling out the ever-popular duo of cynicism and inaction on Lemmy is not going to go over well.
I don’t think so
That’s still just a drop in the bucket.
A single almond uses 5 liters of water to grow to harvest. And yet somehow that’s supposed to be more environmentally friendly as a milk alternative.
They always blame em the consumer instead of having industry be more efficient.
You’re joking, right? Dairy Milk requires not just way more water but also space, work and a deeply unethical business concept (cows have to constantly be impregnated to produce milk, the antibiotics they’re given en’ mass are destroying our most important drugs’ effectiveness, the food we give the cows could feed multiple humans, ecetera).
Almond milk is also the most demanding of the alternatives as far as I know. Oat milk is even more efficient, and other than with cows we can still make farming them more efficient (drip-farming, Solarfarming - crops have higher yields and lower water needs in partial shadow as well - ecetera).
Not sure where you got your opinion from. There are good alternatives.
The scapegoating of almonds is popular disinfo at least in California. It’s part of the water wars. I’m pretty sure it’s promoted by the meat industry and other nefarious characters. I’ve heard it many times.
Some background and debunking:
- https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/04/16/399958203/how-almonds-became-a-scapegoat-for-californias-drought
- https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/comments/13j8c86/nyt_oped_piece_pushes_false_narrative_of_almonds/
- https://www.agroinvestspain.com/debunking-a-myth-almond-water-footprint/
- https://farmtogether.com/learn/blog/dispelling-miconceptions-about-almonds-water-use
There is a lot of disinformation for sure. We are also growing a lot of crops in places we shouldn’t be, and almonds in California are a pretty good example.
If you blend plant-based ‘meat’, it makes ‘milk!’
Now compare it to the water used to grow animal feed and the animals themselves.
haha, yes. because if you count this gray water, then a cow uses a very large amount even before she ever produces milk for the first time.
Why would you count the grey water when they were clearly talking about drinking water
A single almond uses 5 liters of water to grow to harvest.
thats grey water they talked about
they’ve not turned on the one at the top yet, they’re obviously trying to save water by doing that. /s
That would be awful! I’d have to spend 45 minutes adjusting each one to the perfect temperature!
Did you send the underage bathroom children home? Not only will you have to adjust each one now, you won’t have children to abuse before bed. That’s not very billionaire of you.
We still should though. We outnumber them hundreds of millions to one.
Their hypocrisy is a good reason to ignore them. They’re not role models.
In the year of our lord 2026, it’s more like they TELL us to save water while standing in that shower making constant eye contact with the camera with water running down their face. And just before their message ends you see a cloud zip past a window behind them because they’re on a private jet while recording it.
The thumbnail for this meme looks like a robotic goatse.
Bloody Stupid Johnson is that you?
My Time at Sandrock Nightmare Room
those people that kayaked to epstein island in a hurricane found out that epstein had a weird building featuring a kitchen with children’s tableware, an office that also kinda looks like a casting couch kinda setup, and one of those kind of showers which had an oily floor.
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