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    The Democrats are going to investigate your crimes? Are we talking about the same Democrats?

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      They investigated last time too. They ran out the clock on all the important stuff and nothing of consequence came of any of it but they technically did do quite a few investigations.

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      Investigations are great for them politically, why wouldn’t they?

      They sweep the house and set up special commissions investigating all of the wrongdoings very publicly and with much ceremony and somber pomp.

      Then either they’ll defer the discovered crimes to the justice department to make arrests (these will be ignored) or send impeachment proceedings to the senate (these will be swatted down).

      This lets them “do something” without actually making any changes. It will also be coordinated with the media to be the focus of politics for a while and not something dangerous like young anti-capitalist upstarts trying to steal the party they rightfully rigged so long ago.

      By making it seem like they’re doing something the can also tamper down some of that anti establishment energy that’s been boiling over recently.

      I hope they fucking fail.

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    Vance is now on record saying if the Nixon scandal happened today it wouldn’t even make it on the news. That is how brazenly corrupt these asshats are.

    No apologies, just the smug “we can grift all we want”.

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          No, like next time, when they all go to prison.

          Why does everybody assume that the Dems are going to do the same things that fucked them up the last time?

          The voters want MAGA to be punished for their crimes, and they are electing people who intend to do that. It’s a new world in the Democratic Party. MAGA DINOS are glowing brightly, and we all see who they are. They are as responsible for the rise and resurrection of MAGA as MAGA themselves, and if they don’t actively take a redemption path, they are going to be primaried out in humiliating fashion.

          They better get on board, or start punching up their resumes for their next job.

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            Why does everybody assume that the Dems are going to do the same things that fucked them up the last time?

            Because they’ve lived in this country for more than 10 minutes

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              If that’s the case, then it’s YOUR fault. If you’ve been paying attention, like you imply, you should recognize that there is a powerful new movement in the Democratic Party, and instead of trying to get everybody to surrender in advance, like always, you could support them.

              Instead, you’d rather give them permission to fail again, and let them know that you’ll accept it, and guess what? They will. They’d rather go back to their Insider Trading hobby than do their jobs, so if you give them permission to ignore us, they happily will.

              Instead of accepting their cowardice, you could scare them into doing their jobs, by threatening to primary them, threatening to vote against them, screaming at their phone call people, demanding they do their jobs, OR ELSE!

              Or you can be a weak little pissant who tries to tell those who are fighting for YOU, that they are wasting their time.

              Ew, gross, grow a spine.

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                  No, it’s your fault for accepting it, and assuming they will do nothing the next time, and allowing them to do nothing with no consequences.

                  Now they are seeing consequences. A 15 term do-nothing Rep was just beaten in the primaries by a KID! And there is a lot more of that going on, and it has become apparent to EVERYONE that we are on a new path.

                  You can be part of the old, weak, cowardly Democratic establishment, and help them crush this new trend, or you can get on board and give it more fuel.

                  If you don’t, then yeah, whatever bad happens is your fault.

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      Hey hey hey, let’s not shove the pedal to the floor !. There are many less aggressive options to consider before penning a strongly worded letter !

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      If the Democrats take the House and Senate, it will be soul-crushing if they don’t pursue a strong liberal-restoration agenda and fiercely prosecute the Republicans for engaging in blatant self dealing.

      Thanks to the history I’ve lived, I don’t expect them to, especially as the DNC shows signs of capture, but it will be very sad.

      Then the Republicans will get back into office, and the US will fall in earnest, possibly attacking Canada and Greenland when the government bankrupts the state, and eventually ending with China and Europe bombing the snot out of DC.

      If we’re lucky, by then, chunks of the US will have seceded from the union to form smaller clusters of states, so that the entire nation doesn’t have to be conquered by the Allies.

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        The DNC will be too busy trying to quash the popular Socialist movement, they won’t have time for little issues like major crimes being committed by the government.

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        I hate that this is so plausible a scenario. I’d love to be proven wrong, I’d love to see a wave of stronger-left candidates elected in primaries and then to office, and I’d love if the party in general could see what an existential threat the current situation poses, whether one is talking about the level you’re talking about or merely forever losing any credibility with their own base assuming some vaguely normal political situation continues from where we are now.

        We’re over the precipice of the collapse of the American experiment in democracy. It’s not impossible to drag us back, but it’ll take something heroic to get it done. The alternative is a long plunge down to some very sharp rocks.

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    It’s even worse, Mikey. We’re going to PUNISH y’all for your crimes, and y’all been doing a LOT of criming lately.

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    And you would be foolish to think the Reps don’t have a couple of plans lined up to make sure that this won’t happen. You guys are fucked. Kick their asses.

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      There are no Republicans any more. That was just their larval stage, before the morphed into their final form - MAGA. They are ALL MAGAs now.

      Reps had some brain cells, but not MAGAs. One of the defining characteristics of every MAGA is their Virtuosic Incompetence. Sure, they’ll have plans, but they are used to the primary objective being profit, not success. They don’t care if their plans fail, as long as they were able to make money off it.

      Look at the Reflecting Pool. A total disaster? Not for Trump, who almost certainly pocketed $10 million of the $14 million dollar cost, and will skim off even more from the repair budget.

      Need another example? Consider Trump’s career as a Serial Casino Bankrupter. People like to use it to illustrate why he’s a bad businessman, but those weren’t failures, they were a Business Model. Buy a casino, rape it for every penny of profit, borrow as much as you possibly can, don’t pay your bills, stiff your contractors, file for bankruptcy, and stick all your creditors with the bills. And then do it over and over until the courts just won’t allow it any more.

      He has made an art out of profitable failure, and he’ll do the same thing with the MAGA party. Sure, they’ve got a massive war chest, but do you think he’s going to spend it on anyone but himself? He can’t even run again, so he’s just going to keep that campaign cash, which is reportedly close to a billion bucks. He can’t let that go, his mental illness/ OCD won’t allow it.

      Ultimately, MAGA will hang themselves, long before the Dems get their shit together to do anything about it. I just hope there are a few Dems who will recognize that moment, and capitalize on it, even as the MAGA comedy duo of Schmuck & Jeffries attempts to help them to their feet, as the MAGAs spit on them the entire time. It’s got to be a kink for those losers.

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    One can only hope, not that it’ll go anywhere. They’ll tie it up in procedure and delays, and make so much goddamn noise about how badly they’re being “persecutied” by the "evil woke criminal communist leftists"that it’ll drown out any actual information.

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      That will happen if the Dems continue with the MAGA comedy act of Schmuck & Jeffries. They will play along with MAGA, and act discouraged and outraged that MAGA is pulling these perfectly predictable actions that are easily avoidable, but somehow never are. It’s barely excusable when they are the minority, but it is totally inexcusable, incompetence, and political malpractice to allow it when they have the Majority. MAGA manages to do anything they want when they have power, the Dems need to do the same thing.

      We don’t need leadership that will match them in corruption, we just need leadership that will play HARD BALL, and force MAGA to follow the laws of this country, or be punished like ANY OTHER CITIZEN.

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    He’s not wrong. The dems will spend years investigating, refuse to prosecute, and conclude by congratulating themselves and blaming Reagan.