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    What the fuck is wrong with these republicans who still think hes the greatest president ever? Are they just purely racism and hatred and see him as their mascot? Are they so stupid and uninformed that they drink the koolaid and believe everything that comes out of Fox News and Trumps mouth? I have never understood what people see in that piece of shit. I have hated since back in the day when he did his stupid ass cameo in Home Alone 2. He has always been a sleazy fucking rat bastard that turns everything he touches to shit. I can’t believe that so many people bought the bullshit persona they made up for him on the Apprentice…

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        They’re annoyed that people experience empathy and curiosity.

        They don’t.

        They just want to be ignorant bigots without challenge or second thought.

        They’re tired of living with people who are genuinely BETTER HUMAN BEINGS than them.

        It makes them feel weak and stupid and pathetic.

        Don’t hide. Be loud. Remind them. Don’t let them get a moment of respite from the crushing weight of ideas that come from people who actually give a shit.

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      I started it when Jordon Klepper starts to speak. He gives a really good idea of what he things they’re thinking and why. He’s a great source since he’s been interviewing them since the beginning. (37:21) https://youtu.be/oLoXaZoeCoE?t=2241

      The rest of it is great too, but this deals with your question directly.

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      Humans are social creatures. Facts don’t matter. Emotions and social belonging matter. So people who are just immersed in trump-stuff are going to think it’s all normal and good, and reject contrary facts from the out group.

      This is part of why right wing media is so dangerous. It feeds the in-group solidarity

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    I disagree. Those that voted for him are the worst Americans in history.

    Voting for a paedophile says more about the voter than it does about the paedophile.

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    Your mistake is thinking he is a president.

    He’s a failed businessman, pedophile, turned traitor, turned conman, turned fascist dictator.

    The US is not a democracy anymore, Americans should stop pretending it is and start thinking about their new lives

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    In a nutshell: Republicans are taking taxpayers’ money. Indirectly, but that’s what’s happening. GOP gov is making everyone buy fossil fuels, and GOP fossil fuel investors get that money through share value. Devious in so many ways.

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    He is america manifest. Many see him as ugly, but many also see him as their man, because he is like them. Plain speaking, insaitable greed, and bigoted

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    Ah yes, but you see, I’ve recently discovered that all Republicans are most likely cunts, so we shouldn’t take their opinion too seriously

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    Imagine being Trump and seeing this.

    It’d be so hard for him not to share the only poll where he’s beating Obama.

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    Either way, he is the most american American in history. He is the essence of your wretched country. You may strive to be something better, but this is who you are.

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      Thanks for the pointless generalized hatred. Really helps us get better, being hated by assholes on the Internet.

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        Please note this is not directed at you personally as I’m sure you are a good person on an individual level.

        Speaking as a Canadian I, and many of us, are absolutely fed up of your bullshit because regardless of if you personally voted for that shithead and every other shithead around him like Lutnick or Hoefstra this is who the country wants representing them.

        This is also not new behaviour. We have known for decades we are attached to a big brother we love dearly but also happens to run a meth lab in their house and beats their wife.

        You need help. Honest to God you need help. Yet all your country can do is punch down and wail about the rest of the world not bending over when you tell it to.

        We tried helping you get better. We continue to try because we love you. But Jesus Christ get your shit together.

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          I used to see value in Canadian Moralism. Now I just see it self righteous high horsing. Their claim to political fame, Pierre Trudeau, has had every remaining thread of dignity shredded by his son.

          Canadians have decided it is sufficient to make their single standpoint “well at least we’re not Americans”. And submitted themselves to being easily manipulated media puppets who no longer know their “big brother” because they believe everything their manipulative parents tell about him.

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            How could we not care? You’re our brother after all. But it hurts a lot so much that yes we are making distance now. Not because we stopped caring, but it hurts us as well.

            Regardless of what people think about Carney or Pollievre the numbers show average Canadians are not going to America anymore and average Canadians want to distance ourselves from America.

            Americans writ large are not aware of the generational damage being wrecked on their nation. This will take decades if not centuries to heal at best and may never return to what it once was.

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          You cannot both generalize all of this and also not direct it at members of the group. America is fucked, and telling the people most aware and most upset by it that they’re fucked isn’t helping. Oh you didn’t direct it at me? Do you want me to force magats to read this comment? I’ll never understand the point in this kind of conversation. The effect is literally nothing but rubbing it in while being self righteous.

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      Not really any different than so many other countries taken over by bullies. Humans suck everywhere - it’s just a matter of when in history (or future history) you chose to look that you catch some being worse than others at that moment. Jump to another time, and the game of musical chairs will have the bullies sitting somewhere else, but still doing the same shit.

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      Ha, you are going to fall too. You aren’t special, this is a worldwide fascist coup.

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        Never said differently. Like you said, we aren’t any more special than anybody else.

        There is a chance we’ll make it through this better than we were, however. Progressives have been on a roll since Mamdani won NYC mayor late last year. Hopefully that continues until there are enough in place to displace the establishment politicians and make REAL changes that work for everybody.

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      It really sucks because there are some core ideas that are really nice, completely overshadowed by the country’s terrible behavior. The things we were led to believe about ourselves in school would make for a genuinely good society. The secularism, multiculturalism, access to opportunity, many freedoms beyond reproach, etc. Our leaders have for centuries now talked about these and still mostly failed to deliver.

      Well that’s on all of us, but given the outsized influence of the rich, I’m happy to shirk much of our responsibility onto them.

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    I voted for the slob 3 times. He officially crossed the line this time. About 40 times. Fuck this guy, man. So much for “no more wars”… and quite literally every single other thing he promised. I’m used to that with presidents, but dang, man. He REALLY fumbled every ball, and he’s having them launched at him.

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      Can you explain what made you vote for him 3 times? Because that’s something I honestly don’t understand.

      The first time I can understand. It was already known how corrupt he was, but most of the media ignored it and I can understand how you didn’t know. But surely after his first term, it must have been pretty clear what a terrible person he was? How corrupt he was?

      Many members of his own cabinet, people who believed and supported him, spoke out against him. Mattis, McMaster, Tillerson, Pence, Bolton, Kelly and tons of others pointed out his incompetence, his corruption and his extremism.

      I can forgive voting for him once, because you didn’t know. But 3 times!? How does that happen?

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        Well, I think it’s normally worth welcoming someone who has changed their view, not calling them stupid.

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          Why has he changed his view? Is it because he doesn’t like the policy or character of the man, or is it because fuel prices went up?

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            And he’s also making ridiculous assumptions. The fact I already stated one reason why my opinion changed and he didn’t even read it is telling. You’re a dick, dude. How is your personality any better than Trump’s? Lmao

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            You’ve helped cause untold harm and even death to millions of people by voting, three times you admit, for a clearly fascist conman pedophile. You now say, well whoops I guess, and expect “them” to welcome you with open arms? Nah, fuck every single last one of you fascist fucks, going to take some serious accountability measures before any of you are welcomed back into the what little remains of the civil society you helped torch.

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            You voted for Trump. Three times.

            We’re not looking for apologies. It’s way too late for that. We’re all in this shit stain world because of you.

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        Because I wanted serious change. And to a point, I got it. Unfortunately, we became Israel’s warmongering lapdog and either got promises 25% fulfilled, or forgotten about entirely. Why are you insulting me?

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          I just don’t understand how any person could vote for him more than once. It wasn’t a secret that he is totally incompetent, spiteful and extremely stupid after just a couple days of him being in charge the first time. His first term was a clown show where he continuously fired his staff. If you somehow think he’s going too far only now, then frankly it says a lot about you and your lack of sense, empathy and political literacy.

          His values have constantly shown that he is sexist, racist, greedy, slovenly and generally hateful. If you have voted for him three times, frankly, you probably are those things as well.

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            Because I am not a Democrat, nor a leftist in any way. I do not stand for their ridiculous shit the same way I do not stand for what Trump is now doing. Believe it or not, people can have different views from you. The fact you don’t understand that says a lot more about your intelligence than my own. Relax, bud.

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              I honestly wonder in what way you think the Democrats are worse than the Republicans. Even before Trump turned the Republicans into a clown show, it was the party of greed, selfishness and corruption. Bush lied to start a war with Iraq. Reagan destroyed the middle-class because rich people needed to get richer. They’ve supported wars for oil, lies about the environment, sinking people deeper into debt.

              I completely agree that the Democrats are not always great, but at their worst, they’re almost as bad as the Republicans. Never worse. Everything bad they’ve done, the Republicans have done worse.

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              I do not stand for their ridiculous shit the same way I do not stand for what Trump is now doing

              Remember everyone. He doesn’t believe in everyone having affordable access to healthcare. He doesn’t believe in free or subsidized education. He doesn’t believe in fair wages. He doesn’t believe in affordable housing for all. He doesn’t believe in human rights.

              That’s all “ridiculous shit”. You’re a loser dude.

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              Genuinely curious what the ridiculous shit is in your eyes. I generally see most people want the same end goals (better lives for all/most) and the nuances are just in the execution.

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                Pretty much everything now. I am NOT a fan of Israel, first off. Not to mention he didn’t follow through with any of the things he started. I personally do not like this country being absolutely flooded with illegal immigrants and all of our jobs being swooped up by underpaid H1Bs, etc. My area with the largest industrial park in the whole country is a total nightmare now. I don’t really care if you feel a moral obligation to think the opposite, so don’t bother. I will be avoiding this sub now. It’s just as violently retarded as Reddit’s r/politics. Got it blocked now. See ya!

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                  I personally do not like this country being absolutely flooded with illegal immigrants

                  Took a while, but we finally found why they voted for trump 3 times. Racism.

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                  And it is this sentiment that will keep you voting for shysters and con-men and voting against your own best interest.

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                  Yeah - shit libs make everything shitty.

                  Their “everything is a nail because I have a hammer” approach to everything stops all conversation.

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                I’m kinda curious as to what it must have felt like. I suppose the phrase would be “morbid curiosity”.

                Also I kind of wish I would have voted the second time and that he would have won the first second time. So we would have only had 8 years of Trump instead of the +12 we are going to get.

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          Fuck your feelings. You remember that? You’ve thrown in with a cult that has been singly focused on being as destructive and as obnoxious as humanly possible for over a decade, and now you’re getting your feelings hurt? Did you actually believe that Donald “losers and suckers, I prefer people who didnt get captured” Trump was anti-war? Then you are, or at least were, a moron.

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              Did you expect a cookie? I mean good job, you finally realized you made a mistake three times in a row after it’s too late to do anything about it.

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                  I wouldn’t mind voting for a Republican woman. But Pelosi was a little too crazy for me. Seemed like a nice lady though, just not suited for politics. Despite wearing a suit.

                  Also don’t call women cunt’s. They don’t like that.

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              You do realize you voted for a rabid angry man 3 times? So the response to there being a rabid angry hateful man is anger. I think that is more than justified

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                Now this is an awesome comment. Also I love your name.

                I would also enjoy the real shame is that they weren’t shot into their mother’s ass. Because their entire life has been shit. Also a lot of 6th graders on badwomensanatomy might believe that is how babies are born.

                Another fun one might be “shot onto their mother’s glasses”. Because facials are fun.

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            Well thankfully we have you here to be the moral one amongst us. With a little bit of luck we might be so fortunate to grow up and be just like you.

            Thank you for gracing us with your presence.

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      Man admits he voted for Trump three times on a platform filled with left-leaning views and then is surpised he gets taken for task.

      If this isnt a troll, boy you walked into this one. Then again, you fell for a conman three times in a row.

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      He’s been fumbling balls since before he was elected in 2016, what made you think he would be a good potus? Why was his string of failures in 2016 not enough for you to not vote for him 2 more times?

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      I have had this thought the last few years. I have had 3 chances to vote for Trump. What would it have been like to vote for him once? I mean,once would have had to have felt good right?

      But I’ve missed my chances. Wonder who we will get to vote for next