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    I think this is code for “True to the art of the white race.”

    There’s literally terminally online people mad that the Odyssey just… isn’t that.

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    In just two years, the premiere will be held at a big party at my cool (not weird) house on mars. The guests will all be real robots that do cool (not weird) dances to thank me for throwing the wildest parties. The AI actors will all have my normal and very regular speaking cadence, comic timing and cool (not weird) body shape. Anyone who isn’t a robot but wants to attend will have to get pregnant by me, and from that point forward we will only communicate through filed lawsuits.

    [Unprompted karate demonstration, done with hands straight down at sides and without lifting foot above height of opposite ankle]

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    One of the most historically-accurate period movies I’ve ever seen is Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

    “'ow do you know he’s a king?”

    “He hasn’t got shit all over 'im!”

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    Aren’t there a bazillion adaptions that only have white English actors already. And of course they didn’t care when non-Mediterraneans whites were given roles to play people from the Mediterranean. Like where was the outrage when fucking Gerald Butler played Leonidas with a Scottish accent.

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      And of course they didn’t care when non-Mediterraneans whites were given roles to play people from the Mediterranean.

      “Who are you getting to play a Greek guy from a small island spitting distance from Egypt?”

      “After reviewing the candidates, we settled on the most stereotypical Boston Irishman under 60”

      I guess they didn’t go with a Skarsgård, which shows some restraint.

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    He’s been broken since that diver rescued those kids rather than wait for Elon to build a cave diving submarine, and Musk’s grown-up rational response was to call him a paedophile.

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      According to some that knew him, he’s been broken long before that. Notably his first wife basically described exactly the man we are seeing long before that incident, but no one really took that in at the time. Even before they split up, saw a video about him taking delivery of one of his first rich person cars and on the video she already clearly thought this was some stupid bullshit.

      Before folks were able to curate his public image and moderate his “creative input”. He was seen as a crucial brand to maintain and powerful folks were eager to maintain the “real life Tony Stark” concept. Those are the guardrails that have worn out.

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        Yeah I remember reading her article about him before he was widely disliked and coming to the conclusion he was a scumbag, but even then I didn’t expect him to get as bad as he did

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        I call the rescue diver incident his public Mask Off moment. Everything before that could be considered harmless shitposts or trolling other rich people.

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          That’s when I realized something was seriously wrong with him, and he wasn’t just an autistic, eccentric genius.

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        Yeah, he’s always been this person. Pretty much everyone who’s ever worked with him has always described him as a contrarian twat. I think his public image started to shift soon after firing his longtime secretary/mommy Mary Beth Brown, who used to control all his public engagement.

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          He’s also always been self aggrandizing. He occasionally brags about how he was one of the best Quake players in the world. Turns out he just had access to a corporate T1 line which gave him a major advantage in online tournaments. When someone else with similar access soundly trounced him, he accused that person of cheating for doing exactly what he himself was doing.

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      It’s been always obvious to anyone with two semesters of college physics that he has never had any idea what he is talking about.

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      There’s much speculation that Musk’s companies tend to work best when he sticks to attracting attention to them (which he actually does quite well, I guess) but he keeps his nose out of their technicals and business.

      And… well, he attracts attention by doing controversial stuff on Twitter.

      Being the biggest troll possible is literally his job.

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    Making an AI generated movie at the end of this year is billionaire equivalent of giving treats to your sickly pet before the euthanization.

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    even at the time it was first told it was a fantasy story about a mythologized distant past. complaining that the Odyssey doesn’t have costumes accurate to the time of Homer is like complaining that Lord of the Rings doesn’t have Aragorn running around in a WW2-era English army uniform

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        I generally don’t like virtue signaling but I just watched Odyssey the casting was on point for the entire movie. Amazing performance all around and hated Elliot Page and Lupita Nyong’o did amazing jobs - these people are 100% just racists and bigots.

        I’m a Greek mythology nerd too and this is by far my favorite Hollywood take in this niche!

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          I generally don’t like virtue signaling

          So normally, you’d be against this because casting a black person in a historically white role is “virtue signaling”?

          Have you ever considered that the casting director chooses who they think is best for the job?

          You’re honestly telling on yourself when you call shit “virtue signaling.” You’re tacitly admitting that you could never believe that a person might be the best for the job because of their race or gender.

          If it’s used regarding something not related to race, you’re admitting to everyone that you lack basic empathy, and therefore refuse to accept that others might have that empathy. “They must be virtue signaling, because nobody actually wants to help the homeless.”

          This “everything is virtue signaling” bullshit is for the birds. It’s a thought terminating cliche that literally makes people racist and sociopathic

          Stop. Do better.

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            So normally, you’d be against this because casting a black person in a historically white role is “virtue signaling”?

            No, just other kinds of virtue signaling. I think re-interperting is perfectly fine as long as the context isnt something punching down like black face. I misspoke I guess but there are virtue signaling that is more akin to obvious rage bait but odyssey is clearly not it.

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        Ah yes, the daughter who was born when her mother fucked a goose and hatched her from an egg. Famously, all goose-born demigods must be white. Everyone knows this.

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          Why is everyone convinced Troy is a Greek state?

          From what I recall there’s no definitive site labeled “Hey historians and argumentative future nerds, this was ilion or Troy”. Priam ruled here, Hector and Achilles died yonder."

          Speculation I remember placing it near Carthage, then Istanbul.

          I of all people should probably know, but I just don’t think it fucking matters, personally.

          Edit: before I get that message, I am aware the illiad is a work of fiction, with a possible degree of basis in truth, or none at all being another possibility.

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      It’s set during Greek Bronze Age/Mycenaean civilization. I guess the historical accuracy means portraying that period accurately within the frame of the fantasy.

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        the point is that even the original ancient Greek audience would not have had, nor been expected by the author to have, an accurate conception of what it was like to live several hundred years before their own time. historical accuracy has never been a necessary, or even intended, aspect of the work

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          I mean he probably assumed and intended them to be thought of as looking more like his time than the setting. So that could be another point of “historical authenticity”, setting it to time period of Homer.

          Some people just enjoy that sort of “accuracy” even in this type of work. It can be neat

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        Which there are valid complaints about costuming in that context, but that’s not really what the crowd whining about “historical accuracy” gives a shit about.

        Like, if it were SCA nerds nitpicking dyes and fabric types, or armor construction - sure, that’s lots of fun. As someone with an interest in textile history I do get annoyed by the fact that the last decade of filmmaking seems to have deprioritized making pretty costumes and everything looks so cheap nowadays.

        But that’s not what right wing chuds are complaining about. They don’t actually give two shits about historical accuracy (consider how popular 300 is with that crowd…) Odysseus could have a fucking lightsaber and they wouldn’t care as long as everyone was white.

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          Yeah, but there’d actually be more roughspun fabrics worn everyday than beautiful silks like they’d portray in a 60s era sword and sandal film.

          Fact is we can’t conceive what the gene pool even made a Greek look like that long ago anyways when this existed as song.

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    It is like saying that you are going to remake Die Hard but make it more historically accurate.

    That building isn’t even in L.A.!

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      You could shoot a film set in early sub-saharan Africa, and fuckers like this would still complain that it’s not “historically accurate” if there’s even a single black person in the cast.

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    Thank GOD! AFTER that I HOPE Elon and Child Porn Producing GROK can make a HISTORICALLY Accurate MARVEL DOOMSDAY! I’m TIRED of seeing Wokeness RUIN History!

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    In addition to the obvious, wasn’t Homer not a person? I feel like I heard that it was more of a legend people collected stories under. May have that mixed up with something else though.

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      Sorta kinda. There might have been a poet we know as Homer, but the consensus is he did not “write” the trojan war poems (we only have two out of the eight - illiad and Odyssey). People have been arguing about this before any of us were born

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    100$ says it’ll never happen. Muskfuck never delivers and even he’s not dumb enough to release whatever monstrosity their shit-tier AI would produce

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      Are you saying he’s a liar? He said it will happen, and he’ll have a show with a hysterical crowd welcoming the release of The REAL TRUE Odyssey movie, and Tesla’s Level 5 Full Self Driving, and he’ll broadcast this show to the folks who just set foot on Mars!