A new psychological study has found that people who report favorable views of Donald Trump also tend to score higher on measures of callousness, manipulation, and other malevolent traits—and lower on empathy and compassion. The findings, based on two large surveys of U.S. adults, shed light on how personality traits relate to political beliefs, including support for Trump and conservative ideology. The research was recently published in the Journal of Research in Personality.
Uneducated, child-level emotions, an inability to discuss political viewpoints, and actual anger when criticizing their cult leader, who could have seen that coming.
Well, you’ve got to be mental to support Trump. So this was to be expected.
Seems like a lot of words to say that they’re assholes.
Pope reports high levels of Catholicism
Don’t give JD Vance ideas.
From a catholic standpoint, the last 2 popes were pretty progressive tho.
Yeah. They were great about condemning child abuse while still making sure to protect the rapists.
A “progressive pope” is like a “good republican”: They don’t fucking exist
Well, it is a spectrum.
While I don’t love the idea of having a Romney in the White House…I’d take it over Taco. I’m not sure that makes Romney “good”, but it definitely would be a lot less bad than conservatism unchained like it is under Taco.
I don’t pay too much attention to popes because, well, I just don’t give a fuck and religion has zero authority over me in a secular nation. But I do realize it’s a spectrum there, too, and if they elect someone who has more modern views on things - I guess that’s good for the people that look to popes for what to think and do?
I mean, yeah. It is great to pretend you are progressive while still supporting and enabling the rape of children. Well, I don’t think so. But you do you.
Can you really claim your views are modern when you’re protecting pedophiles?
Also if nazis are voting for you you’re already on the shit end of the spectrum
Things like this always grind my gears.
because there are good Republican, for example: Irish Republican, Spanish Republican, Pro independence Republican, etc
I think what you mean is “there are no good trump suporter”
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That’s like saying “from the standpoint of a sea the Caspian Sea isn’t that big”
PR aside, every single Pope has been the head of one of the oldest and most conservative organizations in the world, and almost certainly THE organization with the most child rape of any in absolute numbers.
That’s not a post that allows for much ACTUALLY progressive action, no matter how much press it gets when you say “LGBTQ+ people are actually people and Palestinians might be too”
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the GOAT
In other news, water is wet. I can only think how fortunate that one person must be who has no maga in their life, and had to read this study to learn this.
Indeed. I wish all the conservatives in my life could somehow have the fever break. I honestly think if some intervention was done, especially in their media diet[1], AND they got some form of therapy, whether it was also pharmaceutical or not, I seriously think at least half of them could be weaned off of conservatism.
Sadly, there is likely no way that intervention is going to be done at scale. Sometimes spouses or family do it, but I think it’s quite rare. Whole lot of men have zero friends and very little family in their lives, I think and Faux and hate radio is always going to be a flick away for people that don’t have real people in their lives. And the con elite know this. It’s often why this stuff is pushed out there at a loss, even if it loses money for years, like Faux.
[1] I remember reading recently that even having to have moderate weekly/daily amounts of something like CNN (lol), IIRC, would tend to moderate their views.
In other words MAGA would be very upset at this if they could read.
/s if it’s not obvious.
/s not necessary, the meme already implied sarcasm
Of course.
Even amidst the overt efforts to eatablish an authoritarian police state, this administration is most notable for being petty, vindictive and wantonly destructive. It’s as if even instituting neo-feudalistic/fascistic/plutocratic oligarchy is a secondary goal, and the primary goal is simply to be cruel, selfish, petulant and mean.
So of course those are the qualities one will find in its supporters. Most of them don’t even have a coherent ideology - all they have is hate and a petty and childish desire to make those they hate suffer.
Seriously. Next time, ask one of them that repeats “maga!” without any sense of irony what that even means. I’ve done this for at least one of my in-laws in Taco’s first term.
I tried to ask what “great” is supposed to mean. What is Taco going to do for his policy? I also asked when it was last “great” and when did it stop being “great”? I didn’t try to “debate” him, I was just asking more clarifying questions about his statements.
Seriously, they find this truly baffling, by the way. They expect either: people will get mad and react to them (thus, “liberal: owned”), or to give a thumbs-up and yes-and them with all the latest hate radio/Faux talking points, or what most people do, which is to try to change the topic or wander to another room, etc. Asking more questions about their claims is just not something that happens in most cases, I think.
About the only specifics on any kind of policy seemed to involve punching down on others. Getting women in line, showing people with degrees that Taco is actually smarter than all of them, othering any non-xtians, most especially Muslims and atheists, “closing the border” (wtf?), an obsession with trans and gays and what they are seemingly “getting away with”, Blacks being put in their place because too many quotas, and so on.
When I asked how their life would be any better…it was even less coherent. I couldn’t really get anything out of them. It was all about these stupid petty phantom grievances about what other people - mostly in big cities they don’t even live near - were up to, and about reining them in.
The one that kills me - my brother does this - is framing it as a response to imaginary opponents.
He does these monologues about the libs or the woke mob or the city people or whoever in which he first mimics what they’re supposedly saying, then responds to it with some copy and paste bit of MAGA dogma.
He doesn’t even engage with actual people - it’s just the strawmen in his head.
Sometimes when I’m talking to someone I know like this, I have to refrain from being snarky and saying something like “show me on the doll where Obama hurt you”.
But in all seriousness, I do tend to ask lots of questions of these people. I think some of them think I’m just doing trolling IRL, because they seem to legit be taken aback. They are used to people taking one of three paths (push-back from the now-owned liberal, emphatic agreement that maybe comes just shy of high-fives and a chest-bump, and others trying to ignore/shun such people), and I take a fourth. Maybe there is just a bit of a trolling element, but honestly, I’m morbidly curious.
Asking things like who are they talking about and where did they see this kind of thing when they are doing the strawman thing. And how were you harmed by Clinton’s policies, or Obama’s or Biden’s. And which specific policies? Also, which specific policies of Taco’s have improved the economy and/or their lives in quantifiable ways?
I don’t know if this causes any stir of thought in them at all, but often, I find that they don’t have answers for any of this. I’m able to keep a cool head and ask questions in a calm and indoor voice and not react in the predictable ways that they think a liberal will act, and that’s really key - because they do tend to get emotional in the process and sometimes, the person they are talking to not getting emotional can make them even more angry, at least in the moment.
Huh… I should try that.
My standard response is to just leave the room.
I think it’s because both are happening, they’re just coming from different sources. The authoritarian goals are managed by the oligarchs and channeled through the (easily manipulated) narcissist in Chief, while the petty vindictiveness stems directly from him.
This just in! NO SHIT.
What are the numbers? If it is 3% for Trumpers and 2.5% for everybody else, is that worth talking about?
If however 50% of Trumpers are psychopaths, what could be done? Feeling morally superior doesn’t seem to be enough.
It’s working out OK over here. No interactions with known magas (or any conservative for that matter) that aren’t obligated by work or family.
I’m about five years into that philosophy and really, yeah, I’m feeling loads better.
Huh, I wouldn’t expect a narcissist to like another narcissist
This should surprise no one who actually interacts with any of his more fervent supporters, that’s for sure.
When the conservatives say that “liberalism is a mental disorder”, it’s once again projection. It’s always projection with conservatives.
is that uhh… is that image ai slop? not blaming op but it seems… shiny?
magas kind of look like ai slop to begin with
It sort of does have that look, doesn’t it.
maybe legal thing
You know… deplorables.
Some people tell me “you just sit these guys down and convince them out of their positions, trust me, it will work”
And then I read this stuff over and over and over again. Write these idiots off for christ sake. Gerrymander them away, shut off fox news, ban their dumb content creators from the internet and lock up every ICE agent in the country forever.
Whatever it takes, make them politcally irrelevant, then you can think about improving something.
I honestly do think quite a bit of it is constant saturation of hate radio and Faux News, combined with loneliness and/or undiagnosed mental disorders.
People are alone in their cars quite a bit and I don’t know if you’ve driven through certain parts of the country, but if you don’t have podcasts/satellite radio in your car, there is almost nothing but country music or hate radio in some parts of it. The con elite knew what they were doing when they funded all this stuff, often at a loss.
I bet more than half of the people deep in the conservative cult could be deprogrammed, but I just don’t see anything like that happening at scale. And it would be way too easy for them to slip back into old ways, since it’s like junk food in a food desert - it’s ever-present and easily accessible nearly everywhere, and there is virtually nothing healthy offered to counter that terrible diet, whether it’s a food diet or a media diet.
I think most of these people are just unhappy with their lives and blame others for it
No shit.