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macOS updates haven’t cost money since 2009
But… They did?! (Never had a mac)
No, major OS releases used to cost money for a license. The same way a Windows 11 license costs money. Apple stopped charging for OS releases but Microsoft still does.
But Lemmy assured me that Apple is BAD!
I know this is a joke. Apple is bad for some reasons and good for others. I think there are technologies where the bad clearly outweighs the good (e.g. anything Facebook/Meta). I don’t think Apple is as clear cut. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t put serious pressure (government regulation?) on them for the bad things. IMO Lemmy lacks the nuance for things that aren’t clear cut.
Here’s an example. Apple laptops are insanely well built +1 points. Apple silicon delivers incredible battery life and performance, and has pushed ARM into the mainstream +1. Apple locks down software and hardware too much -1. Apples labor practices -1. I would love to see better Linux support for Apple silicon (I think it’s exists, but idk how well it works).
I would love to see better Linux support for Apple silicon (I think it’s exists, but idk how well it works).
There’s not much demand for that as it’s generally a tad more expensive than similar hardware from other manufacturers, so usually makes more sense to get more open hardware for using with Linux.
I feel like I’m this weird combination where I love the design of their products - are there other aluminum laptops that are as sleek as Apple? But on the other hand, I also think something modular like framework would be sick. I guess that’s the issue is you can’t have the sleek fully aluminum design and have it be modular/repairable. But I will say this, my M2 Max MacBook Pro has been a beast for 2 years, and it shows no signs of slowing down.
I think framework laptops look pretty sleek 🤷
And they sell an aluminium cover if you wanted it to be almost fully aluminum: https://frame.work/products/input-cover-kit?v=FRANHC0001
Every 10.x version of OS X cost money up through 10.6, just like how every version of Windows has cost money unless you use one of the keygens Microsoft doesn’t care about.
7.1 was the first MacOS that apple charged for, nominally to cover the cost of the CDs. 7.1, 7.5 and 7.6 all cost $29, but you could get free installers from many of the Mac magazines.
8.0, 8.5 and 9.0 were $99
10.0 was $129
10.1 was free, but a lot of stores charged a handling fee. I remember picking up my copy from CompUSA for ten cents.
10.2 - 10.5 were $130 upgrades, but there were numerous ways to get it for free. I don’t think I ever actually paid for any of them.
10.6 and 10.7 were both $30
10.8 was $20
10.9 and later were all free
I have a vague memory of spending $30 for an upgrade to MacOS more than a decade ago. Then Apple stopped charging for them. So, this comic is pretty off base, but people love to bitch, so what can you do.
Yeah, the last time they charged was Snow Leopard in 2009. Everything has all been free since. Snow Leopard was really a dream to use, though. If paying $30 would get us back to that kind of luxury, I would gladly pay for the privilege.
And I like Windows Updates. They do actually add new features now.
Don’t understand why updates annoy people so much. Probably because they leave their PC running for days and keep putting them off until Windows literally forces you to restart your machine. But if you’re a normal person who shuts down their PC on a regular basis, the updates literally never bother you. They quietly download in the background and then install the next time you go to shut down your machine. You don’t even have to think about it.
Edit: If ads and AI are the reason why you hate Windows updates, consider installing O&O Shut Up 10 (it works in Win11 too). Or just switch to Linux.
then I have to spend time undoing those shitty new bloated features, reset default applications. too much useless ai bloat too.
This keeps coming up a lot, so see my edit. There are no ads or AI in my copy of Windows 11.
I use: https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil but it’s still extra work we shouldn’t be forced to endure
also I use Linux, I just game on a windows partition
Which games?
primarily path of exile and all the accompanying third party applications that seem to only exist on windows.
Linux update is more like… “uh oh, please don’t break anything, I just got my graphics drivers working last week.”
This take is based on a true story.
Says the NVidia user.
When I bought my last laptop I specifically looked for alternatives to Nvidia. If you want a dGPU on a laptop, there’s almost nothing else than Nvidia.
There were like 4 laptops with AMD dGPU. All of them were priced about 2x what a comparable Nvidia laptop was priced and pretty much all of them have terrible ratings due to being made by Acer.
The only other option is Framework, and they want 3x what the Nvidia 4070 laptop cost that I ended up getting.
Android apps:
The free features are now removed. Watch a video before you can send texts for a week.
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MacOS updates don’t cost money. They’re also completely optional (even security updates) and major OS versions introduce new features.
Calm down, Tim Apple. It’s just a meme.
Huh, never had to pay for a Mac update.
That’s because Apple hasn’t charged for OSX/MacOS updates since 2013 with OSX 10.9
Edit: I also don’t think they were ever $99. I upgraded from 10.5 to 10.6 back in 2009 and I think it was only like $30, and they had to ship me a disc with the update so it’s not like they didn’t have any overhead they had to pay for
They were more expensive in the early 2000s.
See, for example, this MacRumors thread from 2003 entitled “Mac OS X 10.3 Panther. Why Is it still $129?”
Jaguar (10.2) was also $129 in 2002.
10.1 was free.
Going up from 2003,
- 10.4 Tiger was $129 in 2005
- 10.5 Leopard was $129 in 2007
- 10.6 Snow Leopard was $29 in 2009
- 10.7 Lion was $29 in 2011
- 10.8 Mountain Lion was $29 in 2012
- 10.9 Mavericks was a free update in 2013
Linux update: … click … forget about it as it runs in the background
Windows update: … why is my system running like molasses??? … oh there’s an update … click … now it’s running even slower!!! … I’m in the middle of something!!! … I DON’T WANT TO SHUT DOWN!! … WAIT FOR THE UPDATE TO INSTALL!!! … How long is this going to take???"
Mac update: … I wouldn’t know, I’ve never owned a Mac because I could never afford one.
Mac update: …
It downloads in the background, and sends you a toast notification that it’s ready to install. It gives you the option of restarting “Now”, or it’ll do it “Later Tonight” when it determines you’re not using your computer.
So, exactly how Windows behaves? This entire meme is wrong for all three OSes and seems to just be designed to annoy everyone…
We need to find more ways to fund the lovely FOSS devs
The ways exist, but a lot of people are using FOSS for the first letter in the acronym.
Could you name a few pls. There used to be bounties with something called gitcoin that I thought was really promising, not sure what happened to that (last I checked they’re squatted by hackathoners)
Most FOSS projects have a way to donate money, for example. But hardly anyone donates because they use FOSS because it’s free as in free beer.
