Fuck all you Trumpers, this is your fault
We need to remove this cyst of an administration before they start WW3
So usa dropping another 1 trillion and 20 years for nothing?
What do you mean nothing, think of all the billionaires adding more billions to their bank accounts, isn’t that what this country is all about
The American war machine was getting light pocketbooks. Gotta start another conflict.
Yea, the American MIC stocks are getting outpaced by European ones, we gotta start a new war to make the stocks up!
It’s called efficiency, look it up.
What do you mean for nothing? That’s $1Tril going to Trump’s buddies! /s
Defense contractors after hearing the bombings:
We spent way more than one Trillion…
Im sure it will trickle back anyday now…any… day…
When it comes to democracy in foreign countries usa always go all in war, bombing civilians… but when it comes to their own democracy they are to scared they will do/say something that will get them cancelled
Democracy was not even mentioned by any one in the orange mans administration. The us is well past such excuses.
I was kinda hoping the US would collapse into civil war before they helped start WW3.
Bugger.
We can do both.
The drives too long for your average US Citizen. at least that was the common excuse on the other site. “Drive is too long to DC” or “I have a job that’s tied to my medical insurance” Best they could do was ONE day of protest. On a Saturday.
The US empire is a cancer on humanity
Almost every American just wants to stay home and play video games, we didn’t want any of this. We wanted healthcare.
They should vote that way then, being dumbasses serves no-one good
I fully agree: Americans need to liberate themselves from the chains of their government. Join a local socialist organization, mutual aid, or union
Hey dude, we didn’t all vote for him
I said empire, not president. Dems aren’t opposing the war.
Trump didn’t seek congressional approval before the strike.
And how have democrat politicians responded?
He doesn’t have to, if it’s an “emergency”.
Half of you did. What a dumb nation
You’re right, and what you need to understand is that the reason half of our idiots voted for an idiot is because we allowed corporations to atomize society so people didn’t mix anymore, we don’t have shared perspectives of the world anymore, everyone gets their information about literally everything algorithmically. This atomization of society is what took down the USA and it’s coming for you next if it’s not already happening wherever you are.
Not even close half, us democracy is a joke that loser can win and not everyone gets to vote. 22,5% of US population voted for trump. That is still way too much, but it is still minority.
The other half voted for Biden (yes, I know, different election, but they did, minus rounding errors). 17.8 billion in military aid to Israel under his leadership, in addition to the 3.8 billion a year for an entire decade that Obama set up. It is not the president, it’s not the GOP, it’s the country. When Harris bragged at the DNC that she would make the US military the most lethal fighting force on the planet, do you feel like she was implying that she would have them sit on their hands?
Never thought I live to see someone fuck up worse than Bush Jr.
He just got the US into a war where there’s nothing to gain, zero upsides other than bending the k we to Israel.
fuck up worse than Bush Jr
Trump is an enemy to the US. He isn’t fucking up, we’re letting him succeed.
We are only 6 months in…… fuck us
Musta missed 2019 when the US was caught with their pants down during a global pandemic, despite having a pandemic plan in place just a few years prior. Ultimately ended up killing over a million Americans… And the guy got re-elected.
two things can be shite at once buddy.
No one said otherwise.
The original commenter said they hadn’t seen anyone fuck up this bad since Bush. The responder is simply implying that they think the covid response was an equally bad fuck up.
that’s not the math I took from it. but, fair point, I reckon.
Sure glad we dodged that Harris bullet though, right guys! I super wish I hadn’t voted like all the other cool kids though.
Yeah sure. Kamala would never support Israel. Y’all are so braindead lol.
Kamala wouldn’t have started a war, and it’s pretty safe to assume she wouldn’t have done ANY of the additional kazillion crimes Trump has committed.
But sure. You go ahead and keep up the ruse that both sides are the same. I’ll ask though, that you take a look around and see that less and less people are buying that bullshit every day.
I have to say, the one good part of Trump in office is at least you lot aren’t lecturing people on why invading Iran is good, actually!
- W. Bush says Iran is in Axis of Evil bullshit basically telling Iran “you’re next!” while invading Iraq. Iran starts a nuclear program in response.
- Obama fixed things by making a treaty with Iran, and got the Nobel Peace Prize (though not in that order which was a bit weird, but whatever)
- Trump cancels that treaty and assassinates an Iranian General
- Biden tries to restore the Obama treaty, but Iran doesn’t trust the US (wonder why?). So no treaty, but also no war with Iran.
- Trump gets in again drops some really big bombs on Iran
“BOTH SIDES!” say both the MAGAs and leftists in unison.
Yeah, you’re right. I’m sure the Democrats would not have supported Israel in Iran, same as how they didn’t support Israel in Yemen, or in Lebanon, or in Gaza, or in Syria, or in…
If Kamala had won, I (trans latina) would not have had to flee the US. But they’re both the exact same amirite? (I’m honestly a little grateful for that. The US is trash. I’m never moving back)
Edit: my point is that people are literally fleeing the US because it’s a sinking ship. Under Kamala, immigration and tourism wouldn’t have changed much
“I would be alright”.
…Here’s a thought exercise for you: The year is 2028, Trump is running for a third term, and the Dem ticket is… IDK, Newsom/Buttigieg or whatever, and the big thinkers of the DNC have come up with a foolproof plan to steal away MAGA voters: they will agree with exterminating trans people, but! BUT! will firmly, and I mean FIRMLY stand behind gay marriage. And you’re trying to explain that both of those choices are unacceptable to you, and in response are met with an avalanche of mockery because “sure, yeah, one side wants gay marriage banned, but they’re both the exact same amirite?”
Seriously, though, best of luck. Not to assume stuff about your situation, but getting out sooner rather than later sounds like a good move.
Here’s a thought exercise for you:
Try it for a fucking change.
You’re doing the leftist reductive thing so complex issues become a simplistic “it’s all the system, man…”
This doesn’t make you look as clever as you think it does. It’ll eventually turn you into a conspiracy nut where everything is because of “them”. Please make an effort to stay on topic.
Oh, it’s not the “system, man”, it’s you. As in, you, @[email protected], personally. You are the exact person I’m thinking about when I say this, and it’s frankly amazing you decided to throw your hat in ring here, while simultaneously defending attacks on Iran elsewhere.
Obama fixed things by making a treaty with Iran, and got the Nobel Peace Prize (though not in that order which was a bit weird, but whatever)
I don’t understand how anyone could be so blatant about their own mental gymnastics.
Are you not aware of the treaty? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Comprehensive_Plan_of_Action
Or are you not aware that Obama won the Noble Peace Prize?
Or maybe you just don’t have a sense of humour so you think a joke about Obama getting the Nobel Prize before doing the treaty is “mental gymnastics”?
Ah, sorry a lot of folks here are getting a bit wacky with apologia, and I could see them actually putting forward the nobel peace price as an argument for Obama not being a war criminal, so I did take it a bit too seriously. Poe’s law I guess. My apologies!
That said, he is a war criminal though, and I feel like you’re cherry picking little bits out of all the presidencies to confirm your point.
Here’s an example in the other direction, maybe it’ll help you see how unconvincing an argument you’re making:
- Clinton: illegal bombing of Yugoslavia, sanctions in Iraq that have been estimated to kill 500k children.
- Obama accelerated the drone program, killing 10s of thousands of Afghanis. Under his leadership, and entire wedding party was murdered in Yemen. Pledged 3.8 billion dollars a year for a decade in military aid to the apartheid ethnostate Israel as they were regularly bombing the Gaza strip. Pledged not to persecute the CIA operarives who carried out the torture of uncharged civilians.
- Trump withdrew from Afghanistan.
- Biden sent 17.9 billion dollars in nilitary aid to Israel as they were carrying out the genocide in Gaza. Bombed Syria.
You’ll note that I omitted Bush. He was really bad. Like, Hitler bad. Not a redeeming quality about him.
At any rate the point is that every single president since Eisenhower, every single one, no exceptions, has been a war criminal, and pretending that any one of them was pro peace is a joke.
Well, at least your inability to do the bare minimum to keep a tyrant king from being elected resulted in you being able to find a bright side to all the suffering he has caused.
So happy for you
Man, you Americans really do think everything is some foreigner’s fault?
Well, when a clown pops in to argue against a comment that calls out AMERICANS that refused to vote in protest, one would assume said clown is American.
Forgive me, clown. The fault is my own.
The fact that you think the constant whining and blamecasting at nobody in particular constitutes a callout speaks volumes. And the fact that your first resort on being challenged is a barrage of insults speaks even more. Someone more intellectually minded might even use it as a jumping off point for some introspection, or see the parallel with US politics in general and foreign policy in particular - but, of course, that would risk recognizing the nose and rainbow hair as the reflection in the window pane that they are.
Honk-honk, Buttons. Honk-honk.
Cool story. But, I’m not going to get into a senseless slap fight with someone that is irrelevant to the topic, so you’re going to have to just go find the argument you’re so clearly desperate for- somewhere else.
Hello world war 3.
It’s being nice knowing you, humans
What’s next? Launching a war against the Ukraine to appear Putin?
You dumb fucking orange man.
Happy 3rd war in the Middle East everyone!
Anyone who still thinks Trump is to blame just isn’t paying attention.
These strikes would’ve happened no matter who the president was it’s a geopolitical inevitability.
And yes, it’s becoming increasingly clear that Ukraine is in serious trouble now.
I’m waiting to see if Trump/pentagon escalates or does their strike package and goes home.
I doubt this is going to lead to some sort of ground invasion. Biden would have done the exact same although maybe more clandestine.
What ground invasion lol, americans have zero chance invading Iran.
Iran and its allies and proxies have to retaliate against US positions in the region. If Iran doesnt respond, they will be considered fair game for bombing whenever the US and Israel are bored. Both US and Israel just proved that diplomacy is off the table with them. Neither country speaks any language but violence.
Can’t wait for all the Americans who haven’t done a thing to stop him or to fight his voter base to show up and loudly proclaim that they don’t support this.
Will also get a nice shitty side of “well what do you EXPECT me to DO?”
Congratulations on having the stupidest comment so far. You should be proud.
Come on, at least call me a keyboard warrior. You guys are going off-script.
It IS probably their script! You can tell reddit is going down when their toxicity makes it’s way over here.
it’s means “it is”. You wanted “its”. Must be the lead.
Your right! They’re must be alot’ve brain in my lead. Thank’s for helping! 👍
you couldn’t of said it better
Yankee go home. And stay there.
When the corporations start dividing your population and guaranteeing their own interests over democracy, look at what happened to us and learn from it. It doesn’t stop here.
Ugh. This kind of hits hard.
I know people who are active in the military (yes they are stupid and yes it doesn’t take much analysis to figure out they’re probably magats). In particular I know several who have been to Kuwait and seem to regularly get stationed there.
I’ve known several people who died by suicide from PTSD from Kuwait, or Iraq.
There’s a girl, she’s a sergeant. She’s in until 2028, been to Kuwait already. I don’t know if she’s even 23. She certainly doesn’t come off as a magat. But it doesn’t really matter. 23 is an adult yes. But to me? I’m 34? She’s just starting life out. To get killed in this kind of war is gross.
And your point here besides pointlessly insulting everyone serving in the armed forces?
