• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    Failing to have a coherent understanding of how imperialism works. A lot of westerners seem to think they live in developed countries developed purely by their own industry, while not realizing how financial capital continues to plunder the global south.

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    A close friend (bless his heart) asked me if I “really think China is more free than, say, France?” when talking about things like freedom of the press and journalistic integrity. I’ve seen a lot of that recently, that because we live in a country which had been once considered to be “socialistic” that the stories we are told and things we have been taught wouldn’t align as much with what global and local capitalists want us to believe is true. At one point I remember him critizising me for using the term “wage slave” (which I used jokingly but w/e) because “none of us here are actual wage slaves”. Because you apparently have to be an Asian child in a Nike sweatshop to actually be opressed by capitalism. My brother, no-one is free until all are free.

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            That article no longer exists, for one, secondly, aljezeera is quite biased when it comes to certain topics, notably palestine, thirdly, I see plaestine flags in every goddamn french protest, and multiple political parties and news sites are pro-palestine.

            It’s odd I don’t see a chinese political party or news site denouncing the treatment of the uyghurs or defending the hong kong activists.

            Like come on.

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              These are the facts that are known to everyone born and living under Western Imperialism, because communism doesn’t work because communism can’t work because the Western Imperialists told us so! How can you be so naive and stupid to believe anything else? Do you not know?

              That’s what you sound like, bootlicker.

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              What do you mean by “the article no longer exists”? What is an unbiased news outlet? What is an unbiased view of Palestine? What is the response of the Fr*nch state to “every goddamn french protest”? Which political parties and news sites in Fr*nce are Pro Palestine and why might that be deemed a problem? What is the “treatment of Uyghurs” that is denouncable and what are the Hong Kong activists doing that need to be defended? And defending against who?

              And why are you lib?

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                What do you mean by “the article no longer exists”?

                I get a 404 on that link, might be a me issue though.

                What is an unbiased news outlet? What is an unbiased view of Palestine?

                What I meant to say was that site gives qatar’s views on everything, and have a vested interest in making it look like the west is completely unable to recognize gaza and such

                What is the response of the Frnch state to “every goddamn french protest”?

                It is permitted, and the right to strike is strongly protected, unlike in china. Under the current administration the gendarmerie often, to put it bluntly, sends tear gas to scatter certain protestors, which is bad, but nobody is arrested unless they commit an actual crime, such as setting a car on fire.

                Which political parties and news sites in Frnce are Pro Palestine and why might that be deemed a problem?

                I don’t see why you think i think it’s a problem, but off the top of my head la france insoumise is a party that loudly supports palestine in the assemblee nationale, and liberation.fr and lemonde are news sites that are pro-palestine.

                What is the “treatment of Uyghurs” that is denouncable

                Forced labour, concentration camps and mass sterilization maybe?

                Hong Kong activists doing that need to be defended?

                They were protesting the erosion of Hong Kongs relative sovereignty within china, and were violently beaten down by police with batons, water guns and tear gas, journalists were forced to include more anti-protester viewpoints and press freedom was further limited following the incident. This is in Hong Kong btw, which ranks higher on free press indexes than china proper. Something that made the news in the west was china pressuring blizzard to ban a player who spoke out in support of the protestors from their tournaments.

                And defending against who?

                The government.

                And why are you lib?

                Someone can be both anti-china and not a liberal. I am notably not a fan of dictatorships and imperialism, even if it’s branded as socialist.

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                  oh, somehow it’s georestricted? dafuq… Anyways better links/sources are available in the other reply.

                  What I meant to say was that site gives qatar’s views on everything, and have a vested interest in making it look like the west is completely unable to recognize gaza and such

                  But the Western nations, who engineered the settler-colony currently occupying Palestine, is incapable of recognizing Palestine. All the recent news about the West recognizing Palestine aren’t actually in any way meaningful when A) they’ve propped up and maintained the settler-colony for decades and continue to do so, while also recognizing the Euroanglo-Zionazi settler-colony that they themselves manufactured and B) the recognition itself is under the condition that Hamas is dissolved or anything to that effect.

                  No research, no right to speak.

                  Tell us exactly where Al Jazeera is wrong, tell us exactly what an unbiased news outlet is like and what an unbiased view of Palestine is supposed to be. No research, no right to speak.

                  nobody is arrested unless they commit an actual crime [in Fr*\nce]

                  Is using the word “intifida” a criminal act and therefore should be followed up with an arrest?

                  Is it a crime to resist occupation and settler-colonialism that is also worthy of being locked up for 40 years?

                  Should students be dragged on the ground by police on their way to the car for the crime of invoking their “strongly-protected right to strike”?

                  I don’t know how you claim to see Pro Palestine protests and activism but don’t even know half the shit that the Fr*\nch state carries out under the banner of “protecting democracy”, and also somehow have the guts to claim China doesn’t have the conception of Right to Protest. No research, no right to speak.

                  liberation.fr and lemonde are news sites that are pro-palestine

                  These “news sites” use the terms “war on Gaza” and “Israel-Hamas War/Conflict” to pretend as if it’s a playing-level field of two equally matching opposing militaries and to downplay genocide. They are also owned by bougies whose shared material interest is keeping the settler-colony alive. No research, no right to speak.

                  Citations needed on the Hong Kong stuff. Championing universalizing ideals of “both the West and China are equally imperialistic and bad” is a reaction so meek, so infantile, that it doesn’t actually ideologically and materially go against Western hegemony or imperialism. Therefore, by also considering the other things you’ve opined, it makes you a lib.

                  No research, no right to speak.

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    Paraphrasing, but:

    • “Truth does not exist, only opinions, and they’re all equally valid.”
    • “Morality is fundamentally relative.” (It follows from the former, I guess.)
    • “Every tribe/culture has always been/remains equally brutal, bloodthirsty, hedonistic, nihilistic, imperialistic and selfishly amoral.”
    • “There are no differences between the sexes besides the physical ones.” (And even that one is denied at times, for instance when it comes to transexual athletes)
    • “Love, making a lifetime commitment to your partner and raising kids are not (nor should they be) of major relevance in people’s lives.” (And if you even mention it you’re a control freak, limiting women’s freedom and whatnot)
    • “You gotta take care of yourself first and foremost!” (the Divine and the collective come second and third, if they’re thought of at all, to the self, and only the self is truly worthy of attention)
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    anything that implies they’ve only learned European and US history (e.g. discounting the global technological contributions of Asia and Africa)

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    “immigration is why our lives are getting worse”

    Very clear indicator that someone has barely attempted to understand how the world works

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    Totally buying the touristy theme park version of whatever other culture. No, the people at the resort don’t actually think you’re great. No, tripping with a self-proclaimed shaman who charges a month’s local wage to resolve your mommy issues is not how the locals do mysticism.

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    Thinking China is the same as it was 10-30 years ago and that Chinese products can’t have superior quality.

    We’ve reached a point where the US doesn’t even know how to manufacture some of the stuff China can.

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      I’ve recently been getting some stupidly high-quality stuff from China for insanely good prices.

      Essentially, I’ve been buying stuff from Walmart that has been marked down over $100. What I think is happening is no-name Chinese companies try to make a high quality product and sell it for a premium, but then nobody buys it because of the reputation no-name Chinese companies have. Then, they still need to sell their inventory so we can get great products at great prices.

      These bluetooth headphones from a company I’ve never heard on straight up shit on the Sennheisers I used to have that cost significantly more.

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        It’s more that China already produces so much of what, say, Statesians consume. US-based companies offshore production and sell domestically at higher prices, but if you go straight to the manufacturers, you can get closer to the prices the US-based companies are already buying them for. These products are often made at the same factories, even, but don’t have the US branding, that’s about it.

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      Even in the west that one doesn’t stand. We have systemic unemployment and tons of hard working family owned business lost everything when Amazon took their market share

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    Another one I recently had to proove to someone that white people are payed more than other races.