• FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca
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      I don’t get why people even like Trump. His personality is so off putting. There is nothing likeable about him

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        They are the same type of trash humans. They relate to trump because they are the same and believe that they should be wealthy and unaccountable. They are pro rape, pro pedophilia, pro racism, pro genocide, pro mysoginist, cuck losers. they believe in the colonialist heirachy that places white men(simply for existing) above the rest of the racialized and gender casted working class. They don’t understand that enforcing this system oppresses them too because they are not educated and that’s by design. They act as the enforcers, policing those who don’t conform to the system that benefits only the capitalist class. A lot of these toxic fascist right wing white males are handed six figure jobs right out of high school. These types of jobs are unionized and seem to hire their friends and family while gatekeeping and hazing minorities out. enter the police force, union construction, fire department, ice, prisons corrections ect… without a college degree and be making six figures, with retirement and full benefits almost immediately. These unions always seem to be the only unions not under constant attack. These jobs are dominated by white men who then think it’s easy to survive in this rigged game and listen to media funded by the capitalist class telling them to be good flying monkeys punch down because they’re the real victims. They love this system they’re getting poorer but they get to be sadistic, self righteous and superior to others Meanwhile any job dominated by women or minorities is underpaid and requires years of expensive schooling. This system is by design.

        Source: 20 years in construction, Dad was Cop

      • Ivan Overdrive@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        There is a certain type of person who is convinced he’s honest. Yet, when you ask them an example of him being honest, it’s Trump being a total asshole to someone. They want to be able to get away with treating people like shit the way he does. And they want to be free of the politeness that governs society.

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        He’s a celebrity and these people have monkey brains that can’t differentiate between a close personal friend and someone eho appears frequently on their tv.

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      I disagree. The one thing he’s good at is conning people with his voice. It’s his superpower. It doesn’t work on everyone, it works on me sometimes. It’s hard to admit, but it’s true.

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        May i ask what works? Everytime i hear him talk i feel like i’m either listening to the dumbest person alive or to someone who loves himself more than i could ever love a person ever. And both are very off putting to me.

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        It’s a thing a lot of narcissists are good at. I’m curious how the numbers break down with people’s resistance to his voice vs general narcissists. I generally assume my immunity comes from my having had a narcissistic father and having bad mental reactions whenever someone starts the narcissist charm. Others are just immune, and then there’s folks like you who feel it but can resist it.

        And I should clarify it’s not magic or anything, the personality disorder just takes advantage of how our social brains are wired, it’s not even the only personality disorder to do that.

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          Honestly, I think the people who fall for him have emotional safety issues. He tries to soothe with his voice and say everything is going to be alright. He’ll lie his ass off in a general way, so you can give him a pass if it turns out wrong. I think that’s why a huge percentage of his base are alcoholics, they just want everything to be okay.

          I honestly crave not having to know this shit about our president who is/has:

          • taken us into a shitty, shitty war
          • killed middle school chidlren
          • robbing the country of our history and our money
          • treating immigrants like shit and sometimes killing them
          • treating US citizens like shit and sometimes killing them
          • installing people who are equally evil
          • fucking up our elections so he and his fellow republicans can cheat

          I’m tired boss

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            John Coffey could be the poster child for the last decade of US politics.

            Previous decades, too, it’s just accelerated now.

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              That’s a really good analogy. Him and Jesus, tbh. All religions base their savior on this archetype.

              Edit: The more I think about this, the more I understand it. He sows fear with fox news and harassing brown people, and then takes on the savior, Jesus mode in his speeches and rallies. He’s like the Old Testament god, follow the rules or bad things happen. But if you’re good, you’ll have riches and the kingdom will be yours.

              Edit 2, this is breaking my brain: Trump takes on the Jesus character, which is why he had no problem showing himself as Jesus. But underneath the surface, the Old Testament is playing out in all of it’s hate, carnage and glory. I can see his handlers saying, “Now remember, you’re Jesus. Be loving to your people and say nice things and be kind to them. You can hate on anyone else though, that’s fine. You don’t have to be like Jesus there.”

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          It’s not just the people who are fooled by him or beholden to him. I would say there is also something wrong with the people who are swayed by but also able to “resist” his sickening anti-charisma. Healthy people are completely immune. Even the people who supported him only until shortly after he was first took office in 2017 should be relegated to the category of “untrustworthy”.

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        Steve Jobs had a similar ability to manipulate. He used it to sell electronics. Trump uses it to bomb brown people, tank an economy, kill all progress, and drive up the costs of said electronics.

        It’s not a super power. It’s not even all that rare. It’s just mental illness being celebrated because he’s portrayed as rich. Rich people aren’t crazy. They’re colorful.

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      Election night 2016 was the Wizard of Oz curtain reveal moment for me.

      I knew stupid people existed, but that night made it clear how stupid and how many there were in this country.

      Terminal.

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        Same, went to a bar to watch the results as they came in, and I thought there was no way, right? He was just so obviously toxic, a con man, awful. But then it started looking like he was winning, then they called it.

        I don’t smoke, but I went outside to get some fresh air and bummed a cigarette. I just had no idea what to do, felt despondent. Now just look at us! :(