- cross-posted to:
- [email protected]
- cross-posted to:
- [email protected]
You must log in or # to comment.
Until we start seeing some socialists in positions of power, passing socialist policies, I’m going to respectfully disagree.
They’re right that capitalism is out; but look around. Socialism isn’t in. Fascism is.
“Passing socialist policies” would require a majority in Congress. What you have right now, is a growing list of socialist politicians currently holding office. And they are having an impact on the direction things are heading.
Are you saying the white supremacists running the country are socialist?
They tried so hard to make socialism a bad word. And non of their voters know one single thing of what it is.
Spoiler: it’s from the countries doing better than you.
The US should stop saying socialism = evil communism …
One can be social towards others without giving away all of one’s personal possessions and liberties…
Personal property exists under socialism and communism.
Private property does not. A factory cannot be privately held under communism. Roads belong to the people. Workers own the farms.
It’s not “our toothbrush, Comrade”
But you also don’t need a totalitarian state to regulate every last thing. There can be independence for those who work and manage the resources; you can still create a restaurant and be paid a high wage for managing it, coming up with new and innovative dishes etc.
The point is to remove the incentive to exploit for profit. It’s literally the root cause of every scam.
Communism without a dictatorship is yet to be seen at large scale. That would be interesting to compare.
And you also dont have to go ALL IN on communism. You can absoluty choose sectors, that will never be private, and have private sectors that will be regulated by giving the workers more power and owners much less.
There’s so many nuances.
Communism without a dictatorship is yet to be seen at large scale. That would be interesting to compare.
It has actually been seen, and currently exists today. See the autonomous region of Rojava in Syria and the Zapatista territories in Mexico. Both were founded on anarchist principles.
Additionally, by definition, communism cannot exist under a dictatorship. That’s why all of the “communist” dictatorships actually say they are socialist, and claim to be working towards a communist future, which is obviously bullshit. All nations founded on Marxist-Leninist principles inevitably become one-party dictatorships because they don’t go all in on communism. You must immediately abolish the state for communism to ever work.
Uh… People in China and North Korea are somehow doing better than me here in Finland? Why? Please do elaborate. Assuming you can.
You realise the comment you’re replying to was targeted at Americans, yes?
It was made on an international forum.
Regardless of how America-centric imperialist the comment was, it was written to everyone because it’s on an international forum without specifying it was for residents of some specific country only.
What happens in the head of the person talking 8s not relevant. What is relevant is what they end up actually saying.
Something in the ballpark of 19 out of 20 people on our planet are other than US residents. It is not okay to write a comment with an assumption that the remaining 95 % don’t exist. There are US-only forums, and you can outright say that you’re addressing US residents only. Everything else is targeting everyone.
It’s a comment on an article about American politics, specifically referring to the issues mentioned in the article. Context is a thing.
On an international forum. If you’re talking on an international forum, you’re talking to an international audience. Behave that way.
Context is a thing.
international audience
I’m an Asian, you’re preaching to the choir. Or what, did you assume I was American? Tsk, that American exceptionalism.
OP should have included the country in the title, since that was relevant info. Beyond that though, the comment is clearly linked to the article. You’re the only one present who can’t seem to read the context.
did you assume I wad American?
No, I didn’t.
Putting China and North Korea in the same booth shows how little you know about this subject.
Which one of those two is not a socialist country?
That’s like saying “which of the orange and the apple is not a fruit.”
But to try to answer what I think you are asking, North Korea is a communist dicatorship controlled by one family. Kind of how Kings worked in the old days.
And China is an authoritarian one-party state.
North Korea does not have a privatized sector. China does. North Korea is not socialist by definition, and China is.
I can’t even imagine the tons of shit that the orange clown team will toss at these two poor fella. If not directly charging them with some crimes.
Aw man, just when not supporting Capitalism became illegal :/
https://jacobin.com/2025/10/trump-classifies-anti-capitalism-as-a-political-pre-crime
Capitalism has always needed lots of support from the government in order to work (and I think we hurt Capitalism’s feelings).
Don’t worry, you’ll be fine since democracy is out.
Capitalism is not the opposite of socialism in fact the people in the picture advocate for nordic style socialism which is very much capitalism based just with strong safety nets.
Capitalism works best with strong rules in place to prevent psychopaths and sociopaths from expanding too large.
But those rules inevitably fail because under capitalism wealth always consolidates under the psychopaths and sociopaths. Like, there’s no way to have capitalism and not have that happen. It’s part of the fundamental structure of private ownership of capital.
Limit the amount of capital that can be individually owned. Wealth cap. Sociopaths are going to sociopath, make it so they can’t have more money than a government and there wouldn’t be so many problems.
Wealth cap paired with a wealth floor and UBI, and we’re really cooking.
Absolutely agree!
Nordic Style socialism is actually called social democracy. Americans are somehow latching onto the term given to them by the right.
Not Americans, American media which is all completely controlled by oligarchs.
The right didn’t give us “social democracy”. You’re very confused.
The right calls everybody who just wants healthcare a socialist. Wanting healthcare is not socialism.
