cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/post/533816

CNN asked Miller whether the Trump Administration will abide by a district judge’s order blocking the Guard’s deployment in Oregon. “Well, the Administration filed an appeal this morning with the Ninth Circuit,” Miller began. “I would note the Administration won an identical case in the Ninth Circuit just a few months ago with respect to the federalizing of the California National Guard.”

Then, Miller said: “Under Title 10 of the U.S. Code, the President has plenary authority, has—” before making an abrupt stop. Miller blinked several times, with anchor Boris Sanchez calling out his name, though he still did not respond.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plenary_power

A plenary power or plenary authority is a complete and absolute power to take action on a particular issue, with no limitations.

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    Guy obviously can’t deal with continuing a conversation while someone is chewing him out in his earpiece. Makes Dubya look like a master orator.

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    It took that for someone to become “suspicious” of the Trump Administration while Trump has been talking about dictatorship for years now … what a joke.

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      Right?! Fuck these Nazis, and fuck you if you have any sympathy for them, you’re fucking evil too

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    The executive is a co-equal branch of government. We don’t do kings here. We kill kings.

    We also kill Nazis. Per long tradition. We don’t debate them. We don’t platform them. Nazis are guilt free kills. Don’t even count as human.

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      We have never killed kings here. We also stayed out of Nazi affairs for many years. The sentiment is nice, but more than misleading. You got weird history books anon

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      Don’t even count as human.

      … People can be evil (and even deserve execution) without dehumanizing them. You know, the exact thing we hate them for doing?

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          A lazy and false statement that even the slightest of thought rips into a million little pieces. You’re advocating for conditional dehumanization. Something that actually should provoke reflection.

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        From my interactions with leftists, they think that the Nazis’ only crime was wearing the wrong uniform. The oppression, tyranny and murder? Totally okay. They were just wearing the wrong symbols while they did it.

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          I have no clue what you’re talking about but I’m sick of people grouping others together and then raging about groupthink that doesn’t even necessarily exist.

          I group together those espousing a particular sentiment and that makes sense to me. They told me what they believe.

          It’s another totally pointless shitty waste of time to say “-ists are all [horrible thing]!!”

          Fuck that shit.

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          RED ALERT

          YOU HAVE JUST MADE A PROFOUNDLY STUPID COMMENT AND SHOULD BE RIDICULED THEN IGNORED

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            The comment at the top of this thread that encouraged the exact same kind of dehumanization and murder that the Nazis based their movement on? Can you not read?

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              The Nazis based their movement on the belief that it’s OK to kill nazis…?

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          Nazis are human garbage.

          As humans, they have human rights… But they also should be punished for their violations of human rights. The law, as it currently stands, is not fulfilling its purpose of punishing bad actions. Thus, it is up to us to punish them.

          Punch a Nazi today!

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      But… but… ”zey vere just folloving orders”

      Punch-a-nazi would be a great substitute for whack-a-mole BTW

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        Literally never killed a king in their history. The closest they got was killing aboriginal chieftains. Muricans just got salty because the King of England refused to let them colonize the native tribes in the great lakes region (which the crown had declared a self-governing protectorate). Americans declared a revolution and cloaked it in jingoistic hoopla about liberty. They also tried (and failed) to enlist Quebec to join them.

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          Muricans just got salty because the King of England refused to let them colonize the native tribes in the great lakes region (which the crown had declared a self-governing protectorate).

          Wait wait wait. The Brits were the good guys (in this one, very specific, instance)?

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            Not the only time. Another example is the West Africa Squadron, where a small part of the British Navy tried to block all slave traffic coming out of West Africa.

            The UK has done some insanely horrific things, but it does have some legitimate bright spots in there.

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            Broken clock, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Proclamation_of_1763

            [Historians] have argued that colonial resentment of the proclamation contributed to the growing divide between the colonies and the mother country. Some historians say that even though the boundary was pushed west in subsequent treaties, the British government refused to permit new colonial settlements for fear of instigating a war with Native Americans, which angered colonial land speculators.

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      I know that Americans will push back eventually, and I’vegot faith but, but the rest of the world is watching and wondering why you haven’t yet.

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        We are pushing back, it’s just the US is far more spread out then European countries and protests are purposely not being covered in mainstream media. Not to say we couldn’t be better or doing more.

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        Rest of the world: Why haven’t you started the bloodiest civil war killing the most Americans of any conflict ever since the last one?

        Americans:

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      That’s the story you’ve been told, it is in fact false. You save and help Nazis flee prosecution and the only kings you ever killed were the original inhabitants of America that you genocided in your manifest destiny.

      No amount of chest thumping is going to erase the fact you’re already living in the 4th reich and the best you can do about it is shoot some random blogger in the neck. And then you have the gall to ridicule the French…

      edit: Like someone mentioned below, the only king you killed was MLK.

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      This is nothing new, Miller has said himself the president has absolute power. We’re just all transfixed now because Miller fell down a Khole or his amphetamines started to wear off in the middle of an interview.

      If it takes this kind of spectacle to make people aware of how bad this administration is, we’re so fucked.

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        That had nothing to do with drugs, he realized what he said out loud and pretended his video feed froze

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          He hasn’t said anything new or surprising though, he’s said all this before multiple times, they don’t have shame or even worry about consequence for the things they say, if they did we wouldn’t have this mess. That’s what I’m saying, it’s wild how naive everyone is.

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    So I looked it up and title 10 is all the rules that govern the US armed forces. The president of the United States can trivially be shown to not have plenary authority by the simple fact that the constitution exists. That is in fact the entire point of the constitution, it ensures nobody in the United States has plenary authority. Even title 10 disproves that as it sets out the rules that US armed forces must operate under.

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      Didn’t you get the news last week? Clarence Thomas issued a new ruling that declared the constitution unconstitutional. Apparently they didn’t have the right to write it so he nullified it.

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      The constitution is a social contract. Since such a contract can serve as the basis for all society, then the legitimacy of all contractual obligations are linked to the legitimacy of this one, that ensure we have rights and freedom in order to enter into contractual obligations.

      Since the representatives of the state founded on the constitution have broken the social contract, then all contracts are null and void.

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    I mean is it not common knowledge at this point that Republicans are fascists and are planning to turn America into an authoritarian state and Americans are too weak and servile to do anything about it?

    I thought it was pretty obvious by now.

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      No. Republicans are fascists who are planning to make America somewhat more universally authoritarian than it always has been. 30-40% of Americans are white supremacists who think this is great. The rest are split between people who don’t know anything that’s happening, those who think that 2008 was a reasonable level of fascism and we should try to stay somewhere near there, and those who don’t want fascism at all. (This list is ordered from largest to smallest.)

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    Suspicion? This has been the goal of right wing and conservative think tanks for decades now. The end goal of conservatism is monarchy. “Plenary Authority” is just a fancy way of saying “The King can do anything he wants”.

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    Of course it wasn’t a glitch. CNN is no longer trustworthy, not even a little bit.

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      They don’t even mention it on their website lol. A major piece of news occurred live on their airwaves, and the bloodhounds at CNN didn’t smell a thing! Nothing to see here, folks! Just a slow day in the newsroom. It’s nauseating and ominous as hell.

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      Never really was, either. Cable News Network exists not to perform real journalism but to sell premium cable packages and ad slots for Cash4Gold