I am wonder why leftists are in general hostile towards AI. I am not saying this is wrong or right, I just would like someone to list/summarize the reasons.

  • ZDL@lazysoci.al
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    5 days ago

    Whose definition of “leftist”?

    The Communist Party of China is throwing a whole lot of money at AI in its various forms integrating it into all kinds of services. They’re not against it. They’re against the willy-nilly shoving of it into everything without any thought given to its negatives. Is that leftist enough for you?

    Or do you mean the faux-left of the USA (which is, on its most extreme end a, moderate centre-left in sane parts of the world)? If that’s the “leftists” you mean, I’d guess it’s largely based on (focusing here on LLMbeciles and other popular degenerative AI forms):

    1. The environmental disaster (in terms of energy used to train and operate, as well as the water costs) that the rapacious capitalists cause with their grossly inefficient LLMbecile implementations.
    2. Most artists, being educated more than the average, tend to lean left and the main applications of degenerative AI is aimed straight at them.
    3. The mass theft of human culture from around the world to feed the machines, only to have them churn out shit writing, shit pictures, shit music, shit videos, etc.
    4. The very obvious fact that the technology cannot ever actually be profitable; it’s clearly a pump and dump stock scheme that’s sucking money away from actually productive elements of society to line the pockets of grifting billionaires.
    5. The general pairing of LLMbeciles and other degenerative AI forms with techbrodude “consent, what’s that?” bullshit. It gets crammed into places nobody wants it, there’s no plausible way to turn it off (Microsoft…), there’s no way to be sure it has been turned off when you try (techbrodudes are prone to being lying sacks of shit).

    In general, “leftists” don’t like degenerative AI because they’re on the whole better-educated than “rightists” and thus know shit like the points I brought up … among dozens of others. And they’re smart enough to know that if crony-capitalists are pushing it as the greatest thing since sliced bread it’s probably bad for humanity.

    Or do you genuinely believe people like Musk, or Thiel, or Bezos, or Zuckerberg, or … are interested in humanity?

    • 33550336@lemmy.worldOPM
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      5 days ago

      Thank you for the explaination, by leftists I meant the ones I met most frequently, that is, the lemmy community :)

      • ZDL@lazysoci.al
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        5 days ago

        See to me, Lemmy at its most left barely qualifies as left wing from what I see.

        I’ve seen a lot of people cosplaying as leftists here, but prick an American leftist and they typically bleed a fascist.

          • ZDL@lazysoci.al
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            4 days ago

            People actually doing something instead of raging on social media to “raise awareness”. People actually engaging the supposed beneficiaries of their (usually middle-class white) largesse. People less interested in labelling and finger-pointing and more interested in getting out there, getting their hands dirty, and helping.

              • ZDL@lazysoci.al
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                4 days ago

                That would entail going to the USA which I decided I would never set foot in again … IN 1999.

                As to how I know what people do or don’t do? In the broader sphere, I look at results. And there aren’t any. Well, sorry, there are. All negative. The English “left” gave us Brexit and now Keir Starmer. The American “left” gave us two terms of Trump and the world’s latest Nazi state.

                I’ll believe there’s a meaningful American (and British) “left” when I see it. Until then, it’s basically a rounding error in terms of influence.