Did they include “do not hallucinate” in the prompt? Didnt think so. Classic mistake
Unbelievably, this is real advice I’ve heard from corporate AI experts.
It is included in the guardrails for my orgs copilot integration. Surprisingly, it still hallucinates.
If you ask chatgpt for 100 5 letter words around a single topic, instead of saying it can’t give you 100 words it will just start adding 6 letter words and then start cutting off a letter.
It’s astounding how much faith people put in this software
Well that’s just ridic
That movie was ridic too
"Oh, thanks for pointing that out, I 100% hallucinated those connections this last time. Let’s go over what’s real:
- real
- real
- real
- hallucinated
- real"
Obviously the solution is to tell it to not hallucinate that it isnt hallucinating
it will hallucinate that its not hallucinating.
so tell it to not hallucinate that it isnt hallucinating that it isnt hallucinating.
Surprisingly
“I do not think it means what you think it means.”
I went to a conference a few months ago and the very first speaker gave the following advice with a straight face to a room full of professional software engineers: “Your biggest limitation on your productivity is going to be token management, so just buy as many tokens as you can so you won’t even have to think about it.” And that guy, supposedly, didn’t work for OpenAI or Anthropic.
I kind of hope he’s at least getting kickbacks because I would rather he be a secret corporate AI shill than just a submissive gimp for dommy mommy AI industry attempting to recruit more paypigs to her flock. At least that would have more dignity.
i always wondered what they are peddling at these AI conferences, we have them almost daily here in the west. im not really surprised they have a hired “spokesman” to do it, are the engineers buying into this? or they know full well the AI isnt shit?
Well, the unfortunate truth is AI is an extremely useful tool for software engineering. I’ve gotten to where I use it most days and it has made some tasks waaaay easier and faster.
But it’s not a silver bullet that solves all your problems and replaces an engineer that understands their projects, business needs, context, inter-team dependencies and agreements, risk mitigation, etc. And we also understand that it will never be cheaper than it is right now and getting too dependent on a tool that may be prohibitively expensive in the future is unwise.
If I were an independent contractor, paid by the job, building a bespoke self contained application for someone where they give me all the context I need for it, I’d 100% be using AI to do the majority of the coding and testing. Get the job done fast and move on. But throwing all of your money at it like it will solve all your problems is just moronic, particularly when you work at an enterprise scale where literally no individual person can give the AI the full context of all our systems.
Lulz, amen to that
“Write program worth 1 million dollars. Do not hallucinate. No mistakes. Good code only. Make secure. No vulnerabilities. Follow all standards. No spaghetti code. No anti-patterns. No deprecated dependencies. Runs fast, and cheap, and completely functionally. Does what it is supposed to. Minimize token use.”
Perfect. Iron-clad. Let the profits commence.
This is like not even a parody of what they think lol. It’s so ridiculous.
Got it, this program was worth one million dollars before uber was invented.
the AI would Hallucinate the part where “it doesnt hallucinate”
see my other comment.
Imagine all the recalls they didn’t do because being sued and settling costs less
That’s not actually how recalls (usually) work. Companies don’t unilaterally decide when a recall happens or not.
If Monsanto can hide the fact that they paid off scientists to say Glyphosate is safe for 30 years when they knew it caused cancer, I don’t know whether I can trust that. I’m sure they have ways to hide recalls to deny, delay, and defend the process…
That depends on how many political “contributions” the company has made.
Right but OP watched Fight Club.
It’s amazing how these people can essentially burn billions, trillions combined, even, of dollars on very avoidable mistakes and it’s a “whoopsie” but you ask for a fraction of it to go to the citizens and it’s “a waste of money” or “might not work despite all the evidence from elsewhere”.
And then also the execs get a few million dollars a year in bonuses and such because they’re “so smart and important.”
So scary to realize these business barrons have zero qualms with putting our lives in the hands of untested technology to make a few more buck to light their already full coffers and that it’s already happening with AI
It’s because their positions are often like that “rest of the owl” drawing meme, only it makes sense to them because other people do the filling in of the details and solving the problems. So when an AI can produce the early part of that drawing and confidently promises that it can fill in the rest of the owl, they see it as the same as what their teams were doing prior and unironically believe that them saying “ok, go do that” is the important part, so an LLM should be as competent as a team of engineers.
It takes an engineer who knows the material well enough to see that LLM accuracy is incredibly low, even when it seems to be making sense.
I bet AI is especially enticing to those of the “It can’t be that hard” mentality.
Conversations about AI aside for a moment, God bless random trade dudes making YouTube videos. Thanks to them, I’ve learned about 80% of most jobs can be picked up with minimal training.
It takes an engineer who knows the material well enough to see that LLM accuracy is incredibly low, even when it seems to be making sense.
This was my take until even this year, but honestly it has improved since a year or even six months ago.
It still lies to you and needs to be given pointers constantly, and many other caveats, but the reality is that all of the investment and coming up with the failure loop perfected by Claude Code changed things IMO.
It’s really depressing to think about how all of these rich fucks set a trillion dollars on fire to eliminate one of the only good paying careers available. It’s almost like it’s time to riot or something. 🤷
I still don’t think that means the c suite will be able to fire all of the programmers. It’ll still be the nerds’ job to get the robot to produce the software. It’s likely just going to make life more miserable for the remaining programmers because more and more will be expected of less of them.
The American business model is obsessed with cutting costs to raise profits. Increasing market share and developing new streams of revenue all have an investment cost and take time. Cutting labour has no immediate cost and it makes line go up for the next quarter, and that’s what their compensation packages are dependent on.
That’s why the idea of AI is so attractive to pretty much every CEO, it’s the business hack to reduce labour cost that they’ve been looking for since we outlawed slavery.
i would like to see the day when a PE firm buys ford, GM.
Just look at the workers rights movement. Capitalists can, and will crush you like an plump ant under their boot. It’s only regulation that gives them a moment’s pause.
No company ever has your best interest at heart.
It’s scary, but also very unsurprising. Companies haven’t seen their workers as actual human beings for many years. That’s the bigger problem that is behind all of this.
They have a department called “human resources”. Come on. They see humans as just another resource.
And that department exists to protect the company from said “resource”
they are hoping to make money, before someone else holds the bag, its not thier problem if they can kick the can down the road for someone else to deal with.
Yeah but could you imagine if one of Ford’s executives could only afford ONE yacht??? UNTHINKABLE
Yes nothing has changed.
The people responsible for this obviously stupid mistake were replaced, right? Right?
Crazy how these tweets/notes dont have CEO being held responsible !? Like no names nothing. But have one good quarter and they are in FORBES magazine COVER
Yes, ironically with AI
There was a brief time in the early 90s when Object-Oriented Programming was still new to the business world. Clueless managers thought it meant somebody could draw a box labeled “Do Payroll” and somehow software would appear. They’re doing that same thing now with AI.
Your average MBA
Except object oriented programming is a real thing that exists.
Yeah but it doesn’t work out described, if you do it wrong then it won’t work
While Output = wrong
Run CreateOutput
Print Output.deleted by creator
Wait really?
Tell me you’re a manager without telling me
As an experienced software engineer with tons of OOP experience, I have no idea what this is even supposed to mean.
It’s in the context of app design software where you make diagrams of objects, properties and methods and their interactions, and it spits out object schemas.
Clueless managers and completely misunderstanding new trends, name a more iconic duo.
Well in fairness to ford this is the first time that any company has ever tried to replace all their stuff with AI. There has been no prior attempts and therefore no cautionary tales they could possibly have learnt from. This was an utterly unavoidable mistake and no one needs to be fired over it.
/s
They will fire these people again the minute they get AI working the way they want it. They better be getting extra compensation for returning.
buying time so they can force the “returned employees” to train south america,eastern european and some indian tech engineers and then fire the american ones.
Hope the engineers asked for significant hikes over their previous salaries
i would asked at least triple, and 1-2 years(for each worked previously) of severence if laid off again.
They didn’t buy the hype; they knew it was bullshit from the start. Seriously, do we think upper-level management can’t understand such a simple message that we’ve been repeating for years? … Of course they knew; they always knew; they got bonuses for pretending not to know.
Nope, they are legit that stupid. They’re professional idiots who only know things about their tiny niche and have NO idea what everyone else does. They have no idea how much work goes into a product, they just think that everyone does what they do, meaning “Just type/draw some stuff”.
The above-average proportion of narcissists in c-suites combined with a “magic box” that tells you how smart and insightful all your ideas are and how you’re such a special big-penised boy for having them leading to delusional behaviour seems on track for me.
Yeah, but they thought they would be the one that would be able to harness AI. Like all the others
The one good thing about ai is that it exposes the morons
Funny thing is, its all in the C-suite.
Listen to your engineers for gods sake
But they don’t have MBA’s!!!
Idk of it even does though… Who at ford is going to take the rap for this?
Will if one would fall for this it would be a sign of progress.
But probably it’s beyond repair and the capitalistic advantage (of the y model Ford) is lost forever
Yeah… Some company or other is going to go bankrupt over this. That will be the start of a fun few months…
Check out brazil and Argentina’s economies. They both deregulated collapsed the middle class. They are both in Golden Ages down there.
Live by the coup die by the coup
Im glad they are struggling. All corporations are bad.
rehire to train the AI, then LAY THEM off again and hire cheaper outsourced tech engineers down the line.
The problem is, “training” the AI is also largely a myth. A bunch of idiots in charge unironically think that if you force all your workers to use llms, llm will magically get better. Like, seriously, they believe that.
They seem to somehow have convinced themselves that these “brains” will just continue to learn and evolve with changes in process, technology, and so on. The AI psychosis that ends with all things being “Ah, finally I will be rich without pesky humans and bills”.
You wouldn’t vibe code a car…
