Just got one going on now.
An extended family group chat that was 99% baby photos until one person posted photos of their kids at a protest this weekend and then the chuddy trad-wife sov-cits in the family threw a fit.
They all left the chat and said they’ll only be reachable on Facebook.
Oh darn. All the shucks.
Now that is what i call an efficient way to filter out the trash from your group chat.
I came here for people’s group chat incidents
What I actually got is a flame war against vegans and a flame war against non vegans and they both hate vegetarians
Please reply with your group chat incidents
Got drunk and sent a picture of my dick wrapped in a fur blanket with a face drawn on it and the caption “winter is cumming”
Was pretty funny all in all, was an incredibly rowdy group chat
/r/cospenis if this was reddit.
I can’t remember where it was from or if it was just one of the degens in the chat but I remember the phrase “cockstume party” being thrown around.
I had a friend tell me her strategy on unsolicited dick picks was to respond with pictures of other dicks in shoes. Often coupled with comments akin to ‘you couldn’t pull off these stilettos, but maybe you could try a kitten heel.’
The only incidents we have is my mother’s husband keeps making new group chats. All the same people, somehow new groups.
All the same content though, just us sharing cat photos.
My dad somehow manages to get email addresses into group MMS chats, and each email response creates a new thread
Do you really expect anything less from an anonymous public message board? It’s practically a Law of the Internet that invoking any version of the words “vegan” or “vegetarian” is bound to spark outrage from one side or the other.
Vegans hate vegetarians? But they are vegetarians.
Not quite. Vegans don’t eat any animal products of any kind. Vegetarians don’t eat products that necessitate killing an animal to produce, but allow others. Note that these other products are usually from animals that will be killed for food, and that the animals that won’t be murdered still also suffer.
Disclosure: Am Vegan. Don’t hate vegetarians.
I think it’s because many Vegans perceive Vegetarians as going half the way and then stopping dead.
From a vegan perspective meat eaters are doing something morally wrong. But many have grown up that way and are conditioned into normalizing meat consumption. Many haven’t questioned it ever, or reflexively defend it, because it is perceived as normal.
Vegetarians on the other hand seem to understand the problem of animals suffering. Many of them made an ethical decision not to eat meat… and then continue to contribute to animal suffering by consuming other animal products. Understanding that murder is bad and then deciding to commit it just a bit less directly, is a position many Vegans take as deeply harmful.
Personally i am grateful for every single animal saved. Reducing meat or going vegetarian are steps in a direcion i see as good and positive. In my ideal world we would all be Vegans, but i am grateful for every little step in that direction.
Even just reducing our global meat consumption would make me so happy. Let it’s insane to me that there is what amounts to my eyes as a wall of tortured flesh in every grocery store, and my tofus and veggie dogs take up like half of two shelves next to the fresh vegetables.
I can’t wrap my head around eating meat every day, but there are people who eat meat at every meal.
Seems considerate? “We didn’t want to annoy you with photos of something you despise so we created a separate channel to do just that but nothing else.”
Only if she did actually despise meat. I am in a few discords with vegans and vegetarians and we all just post food photos regardless.
I’d say the issue is more that the group was secret and had a stupid name.
Edit: people who stalk decent folks comment history to mass downvote should be executed.
The name is clever!
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Rich high school friend shared a newspaper clipping with us (in the high school group) in which he was featured. Apparently he had a car accident with a girl in the seat next to him, and had suffered mentally for it over the guilt of crippling the girl. The initial reaction of the group was “ohh, so sorry you had to go through that”.
Later, once it sunk in that a) why was this featured in the newspaper at all, and b) his family is very rich, I think we all came to the understanding that he had basically crippled a girl with his reckless driving, could not fix the problem with money, and so in order to help mitigate against a future court case or to discredit the girl, his family paid for a sob piece in the press.
He was your typical rich kid: fast car, no consequences, if someone comes up with a joke he will steal it and claim it as his own. Shit eating grin, until you have nothing you can offer him so he goes and talks to someone else.
Holly seeing the comments on this post is crazy and some people would do good to touch some grass.
I was hoping to read a collection of people’s group chat incidents. This sucks.
Meatheads love to ruin everything.
Don’t start
If you actually pay attention you can see the meatheads started every argument.
So shut the fuck up.
Dude /Dudette, what’s wrong with you? We aren’t here on xitter, where you get to dunk on others for some internet points. I know everybody has a bad day, but please act civilized and have a little dececy. It’s not that difficult and you’ll get your point accross easier if you don’t go fronting people 24/7.
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You must lead a charmed life
Not in these comment replies tho
FFS we are talking about the other comments in these replies.
meatheads
Looks like the average reddit user.
i regonize that yapper.
I see a total of two shitheads commenting live bait and for every one of those, at least three people are shitting on them when they could’ve just downvoted and moved on.
If your point is “who’s starting it” rather than who’s fueling it, it’s disingenuous and overly generous.
“I should be able to post but you shouldn’t be able to reply”
Exactly. These idiots post offensive shit with no other point than harassment, then cry like babies to the mods when people tell them to fuck off.
Most comments are by people talking about going vegan or vegetarian, what are you on about?
Professional victim while blaming everyone else, and also trying to use cute slurs
Being a single-issue conversationalist
Yep. Yet another useless flame war over dietary preferences while missing the original joke.
This posts comment section is literally
Just because you couldnt live without Meat dosent mean you cant respect some ones choice to not eat it, change my mind.
Ikr.
It’s a meme… Laugh. Or don’t?
What if I laugh and don’t?
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I would not be surprised if my old coworker-friends started a separate group chat without me after the nth, “Maybe you should come to one of these protests” and “Please at least read the wikipedia summary on this historical topic before you start going off about it” message from me.
They’re fine people but they’re also kind of very… apolitical.
There’s a time and a place?
Honestly that seems pretty thoughtful of them. Most people I know would give zero shits and just post all that on a chat with vegans and vegetarians. Some of them going out of their way to post them on that chat specifically.
Gone vegetarian 5 years ago just before the pandemic hit. I’ve never had any real issues so far and my friend group has mostly switched to vegetarian meals when I’m present. Not because anyone forced them, but because it’s a lot easier and there’s so much awesome vegetarian food nowadays.
And when we barbecue, everyone brings their own stuff anyway. So that’s a non issue as well (I don’t care about cross contamination at all)
I don’t think I could go full vegan, but in all honesty, I save enough money from not buying meat that I can buy all of my milk and cheese organic and that got rid of pretty much every last one of my moral qualms.
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Not a vegan, but organic is really a marketing term more than anything, at least in the US. Organic farming isn’t necessarily a more environmentally safe alternative to normal farming, especially since “organic” pesticides tend to also cause local environmental damage.
This is confusing for me. When I was growing up, it was in the aftermath of DDT and all that shit. Organic was what decent people started using to indicate that no awful pesticides like that were used. It wasn’t supposed to be marketing.
nowadays organic just means it doesn’t use regulated pesticides, doesn’t indicate any quality besides that
I don’t know and don’t care about the US, but at least in the EU this statement is false. The EU-BIO- Label doesn’t regulate as much as it could, but it does regulate a lot more than just “no pesticides”.
Oh, I’m in America, and it doesn’t mean “no pesticides”. it means no pesticides approved by the EPA. fuck knows what they’re actually putting on there
There is a strong anti-organic community that will say this. There is a clear indication of what organic means on the website. It is not perfect, but waaaay better.
https://www.ams.usda.gov/about-ams/programs-offices/national-organic-program
If you became a vegetarian for ethical reasons, then buying organic milk doesn’t solve any of the moral qualms connected to the dairy industry. The cow still gets (forcefully) impregnated, her calf still gets taken from her shortly after birth and both of them get killed once they are no longer economically viable.
I became a vegetarian for environmental reasons and I do think all animals deserve a dignified existance, but my criteria for that is obviously very different from yours.
Still though, it never ceases to amuse me how that forceful impregnation BS is still floating around with people who’ve never encountered a live animal in their entire life. How about you try getting a male and female pet and do a little study on how small the intervals in between litters really are.
Still though, it never ceases to amuse me how that forceful impregnation BS is still floating around
Are you saying cows are not impregnated forcefully? Because artificial impregnation is used regularly by dairy farmers. Even when not, the time of impregnation, either by natural methods or artificially, is carefully selected with best milk production in mind.
How about you try getting a male and female pet and do a little study on how small the intervals in between litters really are
For cows it’s usually a dry period of 60 days, before they are impregnated again.
I’m not even sure what point you are trying to make here. Are you implying that wild cows would also be pregnatant as much as possible?
I’d be interested in what your criteria for a dignified existence are. For example, what is your stance on the separation of cow and calf? This happens in organic farming too. Regardless of the method of farming (organic or not) cows are slaughtered for meat at about 5 years of age, after bringing 2 or 3 calves into the world and about 15 years before their natural death. Do you regard that as a dignified existence?
My source is that my family owns an organic dairy farm and every single number you pulled is either wrong or out of context
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Cows get pregnant about once per year. When we have an actual bull with the herd, that interval is even shorter because the bull won’t consider milk production at all. He’ll jump on as soon as he smells she’s in heat.
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There’s nothing forceful about artificial insemination and every statement in that direction is extremist bullshit spread by Peta Terrorists and other lowlifes
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Wild cows also get pregnant every year, yes. They need to produce as much offspring as possible so the herd doesn’t die out and when there’s a bull present and the cow goes into heat, then there’s nothing stopping them.
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Cows on organic farms often live into their teens and are usually only slaughtered when they develop severe health problems. Our oldest one is 16 years old as of last month and you can easily tell that she’s an extremely old lady. Wild cows have a way shorter life expectancy because they get hunted down by predators or die of an infection as soon as they show any kind of weakness or old age.
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A dignified existence for a cow is the ability to graze on fresh pastures, a roof over the head for bad weather, soft bedding for resting, a reasonablely sized herd for companionship and a painless death when her time has come.
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Separation of cows and calves is your only argument that has any kind of merit, but honestly most cows take it pretty well. A lot of farmers are actually exploring concepts where mother and calf are kept together, but those usually result in higher maintenance cost and slightly lower milk yield. And customers are just not ready to pay the difference.
The thing that people like you always forget is that most farmers and especially organic farmers care a great deal about their kettles’ wellbeing and some of you would do well to remember that.
Hey, thanks for getting back to me. I’d be really interested in a follow up.
Let me start by stating that i am happy to learn more and don’t ask to get a “got ya” out of you. It’s great to have the possibility to talk to somebody who has real experience in the field (if you don’t mind me further enquiring of course).
- Cows get pregnant about once per year. When we have an actual bull with the herd, that interval is even shorter because the bull won’t consider milk production at all. He’ll jump on as soon as he smells she’s in heat.
So cows have one or two calves a year, with a dry period of 60 days, while giving milk for the rest of the year.
- There’s nothing forceful about artificial insemination and every statement in that direction is extremist bullshit spread by Peta Terrorists and other lowlifes
I have to disagree here. Dairy farmers are impragnating cows, either via natural or artifical methods, to make a profit selling their milk. Impregnating another sentient being that cannot consent to it, for no other reason than to profit from them, is by definition forceful in my opinion. I’d even say it is forceful regardless of the physical force the act of impragnation requiers.
- Wild cows also get pregnant every year, yes. They need to produce as much offspring as possible so the herd doesn’t die out and when there’s a bull present and the cow goes into heat, then there’s nothing stopping them.
That’s good to know. I suppose the herds size would be regulated trough predators. Most cows that exist in America and Europa wouldn’t survive in the wild, because they have been bred into milk or meat producers, but it’s good to know thad beeing pregnant is the norm for cows.
- Cows on organic farms often live into their teens and are usually only slaughtered when they develop severe health problems. Our oldest one is 16 years old as of last month and you can easily tell that she’s an extremely old lady. Wild cows have a way shorter life expectancy because they get hunted down by predators or die of an infection as soon as they show any kind of weakness or old age.
I’m really happy to hear this :) Since this reduces profit it really shows a genuine care about your families cows, since doing this while losing money must come out of respect and genuine care. e Is keeping cows alive into their teens or even late teens something only your family does or is it part of the general organic milk industry’s standards?
- A dignified existence for a cow is the ability to graze on fresh pastures, a roof over the head for bad weather, soft bedding for resting, a reasonablely sized herd for companionship and a painless death when her time has come.
- Separation of cows and calves is your only argument that has any kind of merit, but honestly most cows take it pretty well. A lot of farmers are actually exploring concepts where mother and calf are kept together, but those usually result in higher maintenance cost and slightly lower milk yield. And customers are just not ready to pay the difference.
Thanks for being honest about me having a point. Personaly i think not beeing seperated from their children should be part of a dignified existance. Even if you think that they take it well, that can by it’s nature only be an assumption.
I don’t have time for a deep dive rn, but wikipedia seems to disagree with you (i know, not a great source):
May i ask what happens with the babys? I mean, you propaly can’t afford to double your heard in size every year, that would run out of steam fast.
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People like me? Who are they?
[…]always forget is that most farmers and especially organic farmers care a great deal about their kettles’ wellbeing and some of you would do well to remember that.
I don’t know about that. I belive and hope that farmers care for their animals, and i can imagine that espeacialy organic farmers indeed do care about their animals. I believe that you see your family as caring about their cows.
Considering how most of the livestock we have is not held on organic farms but is mass produced cattle on large scale farms that do live under horrendous circumstances, i don’t think that “most” farmers care about their animals as living beings that should be treated with respect. Maybe as an asset that has to be kept healthy enough to produce the desired product, but that often includes the very bare minimum of care (at least outside of organic farms).
Wild cow herds are regulated by predators, but also by themselves. Like with most herd animals, males are either killed or exiled once they reach puberty.
On my parents farm we leave the calves with their mother for a day and then move the calves to their own enclosure nearby. If I had to guess, I’d say that the social contact with the other calves significantly reduces stress for the calves and the direct line of sight helps the mothers cope. But it really depends on the individual cow how well they take it.
As far as I’m aware organic farms often keep their cows for roundabout one decade given that their health allows it. Upper teens are rare because older cows are a lot more prone to develop serious health issues and most of the time it’s more humane to slaughter a cow with a torn ligament than watching her die painfully from gas buildup.
Thanks. How do you proceed with the calves after they are separated? Are they sold, killed, kept, etc? Does what happens to them depend on a calves sex?
it’s is absurd to discuss consent from a cow. do you ask locks for consent before you force your keys in them?
I don’t, since locks are inanimate objects that lack the ability to feel and think. Do those qualities apply to cows too?
I sincerely hope that you think humans should be asked for consent before impregnating them. But you don’t seem to think this applies to cows. What qualitie(s) does a cow lack, that a human animal has, to justify this distinction?
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How about you try getting a male and female pet and do a little study on how small the intervals in between litters really are.
Or just spay and neuter
aaand that’s why I’m in no group chat. Not even in the family group chat. They kept adding me and I kept leaving immediately. Everybody got angry with me. A couple of months ago something hapened and the grouo is over. I don’t know what happened because I was not there. Nobody is angry with me and I’m not angry with anyone. say NO to group chats
I’m the admin of our group chat and I have a “no social media shares or political talks” or muted.
family photos and announcements only
Ahhh the WhatsApp Paradox
For every chat group you’re in, there is a separate group that exists without you in it
That’s not a paradox, that’s the group chat power set theorem
That’s the least problematic result. "We all love meaty food and we know you don’t so we didn’t invite you to the Delicious Meat Showcase.’
i probably couldnt live Vegan, or even vegetarian. like i eat meat with almost every meal.
I’ve been vegan now for seven years and I literally just did it because I got tired of fucking with animals. I went from full-on carnivore to 100% vegan in a week; compared to quitting nicotine or even caffeine (easy) becoming vegan was by far the easiest life change I’ve ever made.
(Honestly I don’t know why anyone would consider it hard: you just stop eating animal products.)
Becoming vegan was very easy for me. It’s essentially a matter of the straw breaking the camels back.
Once I got to the point of “yeah, this is fucked, I don’t want to be part of this horror show anymore” I simply didn’t want to eat meat.
Right on bro. I actually do amatuer MMA, and after switching to vegan I was finally able to surpass the plateau I hit, and set new personal bests in the big three, squat, deadlift and bench press.
Holy moly does a vegan diet give you a lot of energy. Never felt better.
Haha, look at all the envious fat asses giving me downvotes. Fucking losers.
But eating meat does not involve fucking animals in the process? What kind of weirdo butcher you were going to.
I said “fucking with animals” but you already knew that you troll.
Damn, someone’s on a hare trigger. It was just a joke mate I got no beef with you.
Oi maybe you should buy them a beer tho
It was beef but I guess I talk more about beer than beef for the autocorrect
Look up cow insemination.
I’ve been vegan for four years and honestly, while it was practically not difficult for me, there was a pretty big mental hurdle I had to get over. It sounds silly in retrospect, but I literally mourned foods that I thought I’d never be able to eat. Turns out I still eat all the foods I like, just with small adjustments to make them vegan. So glad I switched. Best decision I ever made.
Congrats and respect!
Honestly I don’t know why anyone would consider it hard: you just stop eating animal products.
Maybe you have a different definition of vegan. Most say “vegan” means no animal products at all. It requires a ton of research to avoid constant minefields, because animal products can be in everything. Dyes, scents, preservatives, flavors, polishes, powders, etc… Even fresh fruit can be non-vegan, because sellers will polish their fruit with beeswax or shellac to make it more shiny, and give it a better shelf life.
I gradually ate less and less meat over 5 years. In the beginning I was just trying to reduce my ecological impact so I cut out beef and pigs first. Perfection is the enemy of the good; if the reader is daunted, then I suggest you just commit to one little thing at a time.
see thats the problem most of the things that i like to eat are animal products. some of them have like 1 or 2 vegan alternatives in the stores, most of them, like kebab dont (within 30 minutes of my home)
like i understand the reasoning, i just never could with the limited alternatives present.
especially when there are a total of 3 vegetables i can eat without needing to throw up
The thing about growing up with a meat-based diet, as most of us did, is that meat is always the focal point. Meals are basically cooking some meat, and then adding a couple of sides.
And so when people try to go vegetarian or vegan they are stuck in a way of thinking that is like “what do I substitute the meat with? What’s the vegetarian alternative to chicken??” - and without meat the style of cooking they are accustomed to falls apart, their meals are pathetic, and they don’t know what to do. And so people think “I can never give up meat!”
Vegan cooking that just tries to “replace” meat will never be as successful or delicious as vegan cooking that has it’s own identity. To cook well in a vegetarian or vegan way you need to re-evaluate what kind of dishes work, and how you cook. Roasting and searing brings out sweetness and creates texture. Spices kick up the flavour. Sauces bring it together.
I am not actually vegan myself, though I try to eat meat-free a lot of the time. I am fortunate to live in a city that has a lot of vegetarian and vegan food. This is some of the menu from a vegetarian restaurant I like:
Ravioli - Spiced celeriac filled ravioli, sage brown butter, apple & chilli salsa, parmesan cheese & walnut crumb (contains nuts)
Crown Prince Squash - Roasted crown prince, seared oyster mushroom, pear ketchup, Wensleydale blue cheese & walnut crunch (ve option available)(gf)
Fennel - Confit fennel, spiced red wine poached quince, labneh & mint & walnut dukkah (ve option available) (nuts)(gf)
Romanesco Cauliflower - Roasted cauliflower, soy & cauliflower purée, walnut & red pepper dressing & crispy chilli oil (ve) (nuts)
All utterly delicious! :)
And I have to ask - what is it about vegetables that makes you need to throw up? Is that a medical issue or did you just grow up in a house where vegetables didn’t exist?
i think its a sensory issue, because for example i dont mind the taste of onion, but the second i feel it in my mouth i reflexively need to throw up. this goes for a LOT of food, and the food i can eat, needs to be prepared in a few specific ways. rare steak? throw up. well done? delicious. raw carrot? throw up. boiled carrot slices? tasty. and so on and so forth
Yah, that’s the wrong approach. ‘Meat alternatives’ are generally ass. Just eat whatever you usually eat that doesn’t need to have meat in it. Black bean tacos, donuts, and cheese pizzas are vegetarian, ya know. Although you will of course have to eat a salad once in a while (horror) to not get scurvy.
I’d do it too if only because it’s heathier, but almost every recipe I know has meat in it that’s pretty hard to replace, it wouldn’t be easy. Maybe if/when meat gets more expensive, I might give it a try.
Why wouldn’t you just try other recipes? I wouldn’t want to go back to the garbage I ate as a meat eater anyway; there is so much variety out there that doesn’t depend on eating animals.
There is, but it’s a massive effort. I do try it sometimes and I do have more vegan recipes than before, but I can’t just replace meat in my meat stew with tofu. The more time passes the more vegan recipes I have in my repertoire. I do try to avoid red meat and replace it with chicken or fish though, honestly I care more about the health aspect than the ethical one.
I was able to switch myself and my family to vegetarian thanks to how good plant based meat alternatives have gotten. If you haven’t yet, I highly recommend trying out Impossible meat products. Their burgers put in an air fryer are indistinguishable from real meat for me, same with their ground beef.
I’ve been able to cook all of my family’s favorite meat based recipes with impossible meat with no changes to the recipe, and all of them, who are life-long meat eaters, tell me they can’t tell a difference.
It’s certainly an inconvenient hurdle to clear to become vegetarian, let alone vegan.
All starts with being convinced that there is something wrong with eating meat, and usually the conscience takes it from there.
It also doesn’t help that our governments subsidize the meat and dairy industries to the point where they are some of the cheapest for people. Remove those subsidies, and people will start to see a reason to make the switch.
And the cheese. Don’t forget the cheese.
Why was this such an unpopular comment???
Because many of the readers here see it as an ethical issue.
Their comment wasn’t making judgements of others, it was just a statement of personal feelings. On a memes community no less.
I get frustrated on Lemmy seeing stuff like this. Downvoting a completely innocent comment cause they have a different belief only makes their beliefs look dumb.
Have a conversation and let that conversation rise to the top of the comments.
I see this and think whoever is downvoting has such a fragile world view that it will break if they see a comment that offers a different take.
Because many of the readers here see it as an ethical issue.
I just want to point out that the “pro lifers” and trans phobes also think their position is an “ethical” one, and all their decisions are driven by that. Doesn’t make them right just cause they think they’re doing the ethical thing.
Look I’m not a vegan, I was just trying to answer your question, but you’re begging the question really hard.
In what way am I begging the question? I was using your answer as a basis for my comment.
I would love to know why that comment got so many downvotes. I can’t think of a good reason why.
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Btw, I recognize you were just giving a theory and not necessarily downvoting for that reason. But it seemed like the correct reason as well.
Because it’s only a completely innocent comment if you accept the premise that consuming meat is not harmful.
Incidents in my groupchats usually end up with somebody arrested tbh…
You can’t just say that and drop the mic! Tell us what happened!
I use to BFF with someone. I heleped them secure a new position. For my help, I was brought on as a consultant. I did a fantastic job as a consultant. I was everyone’s buddy and everyone loved me.
I was part of high level meetings and decisions.
Then I found out some of my so called “friends” had a secret Signal chat. They even invited some random person! I cried for days.
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Hoping you were too important and they didn’t want you seeing embarrassing things and losing your respect etc. cuz you sound important!!
Thanks kind internet stranger. To be told, I was making fun of Ol’ Elon Musky and the meme of him being sad, with the words “You guys have a group chat?”. Which came out shortly after the Signal Group chat with the journalist.
Ohhhhh over mah head
My friend had someone in our discord, he was the only one who was on in the video chat, the dude popped in and said, “you wanna see a murder”
“No?”
Then he just vigorously started cutting himself with a knife. He was ultimately kicked out because of his drug problem
