[I literally had this thought in the shower this morning so please don’t gatekeep me lol.]
If AI was something everyone wanted or needed, it wouldn’t be constantly shoved your face by every product. People would just use it.
Imagine if printers were new and every piece of software was like “Hey, I can put this on paper for you” every time you typed a word. That would be insane. Printing is a need, and when you need to print, you just print.
I really love your analogy. I’m imagining early 90s Windows and AOL bombarding folks with pop ups that say ‘want to take this with you? Print it!’ and ‘Did you know you can print anytime you like with our new dedicated keyboard print button?’ and ‘Try our new cassette music player, now printer-powered to give you the best sound you’ve ever heard!’
Warning : I think AI in the current hype form, so commercial GenAI and LLM, is absolutely bullshit. The result is just bad and resources required is absolutely ridiculous, and maybe worst than those two combined (which is already enough to want to reject en masse) it is structured in order to create dependencies on very few actors.
Yet… (you saw that coming!) it’s not because 99.99% is bad that suddenly the average consumer leverages the less than .01% left properly.
What they (OpenAI, Claude, M$, NVIDIA, Google, Meta, etc) are looking for is a product/market fit. They do have a product (arguable) and a market (millions if not billions of users of their different other products) with even a minuscule fraction of people trying to use their new AI-based tool… and yet nobody actually knows what the “killer app” truly is.
They are investing everything they don’t spend on actual R&D or infrastructure in finding out … what it’s actually for. They have no clue.
Those trying to sell it are trying to figure out where it’s most useful. In one way, I think it’s an amazing technology, and I also wonder how it can be best used. However, I can’t stand it being pushed on me, and I wish I could easily say no. Acrobat Reader is particularly unbearable with it. Trying to describe a drawing?? Ughhh. Waste of space and energy like nothing else.
I have found one use for it: getting information from behind login/paywalls.
It still feels gross to use AI at all though. It’s like putting my hand in toilet water.
The market flooding is a classic silicon valley strategy of free today charge tomorrow except they’re over invested in this one financially, in global supply for GPUs, and land with viable power infrastructure.
It’s crammed for awareness so shareholders know.
That’s my take.
Because right now, the general populace thinks AI is some unicorn magic that will fix all the things.
AI got tons of money from investors they will eventually want ROI… this why they are trying to force it down our throats
This is the correct answer. It’s all about money.
agreed
Dealers give drugs for free until you’re hooked…
In my nearly half century on this planet and having dealt with many a drug dealer in my younger days, absolutely none of them have been this pushy 😆
That’s actually really rare.
It’s pretty common here.
Instructions unclear fucked the drug dealer.
More like; it’s cheap when you have no tolerance and no daily habit. You start paying if you let your consumption grow 50-fold.
This was exactly my thought when MS finally decided to force Copilot to be licensed. They have literally inserted it into every nook and cranny they can so far and the only conclusion I can come to is that they royally f’ed up. Like they invested so much in it and likely aren’t seeing anything profitable. In a way, it satisfies me to see them act so desperate for something so futile but I don’t want it to continue. It’s clear what damages they have caused and it’s not worth it.
It’s the only thing holding the US economy afloat now. Do you want to fight your neighbours for the last piece of hardtack?
To be fair, the internet was fucking everywhere once the dotcom bubble kicked off. Everyone had a website, and even my mum was like “Don’t bother your dad, he’s on the internet” like it was this massive thing.
That’s the point though, you wouldn’t need it advertised to you 24/7 because your family and friends would already be all over it.
Not sure where you’re going with that analogy. The vast majority of text processors do have a button that lets you print the document.
He’s saying if printing was shoved in your face as much as AI, everyone would be skeptical of that also. AI is a bit much nowadays, I fucking hate hearing about it. I’m in IT.
The more you use AI the more data you are providing it.
- They want data in the hope they can train their data centre hosted LLM’s to be accurate enough to take many jobs.
- If they achieve this, and make every company and country dependent on their LLM, they rinse, and the former middle class is as fucked as the working class have been since 1980’s de-industrialisation. You’re either made redundant, or your job can now be done by a long line of redundant people.
It is a race to the bottom.
At least, this is one possible outcome. There is a decent chance their data centre hosted LLM’s just won’t be accurate enough for mass deployment.
Are the data centers hardened? Isn’t that the appropriate question in this case? I’d call it voting for a better tomorrow?
Even a perfectly secure data centre hosted LLM, in the hands of hyper-capitalist silicon valley tech bros, has the potential to do immense harm to most people. They are not our friends, and do not have our best interests at heart. (If you need this pointing out to you in November 2025 there is probably little point in us communicating at all, to be honest.)
I am aware of the good that machine learning can do. These LLM’s are not that.
They are buying islands, and putting bunkers on them, for a reason.
Why did the jewelry thieves attack the LOUVRE when the 1% are the ones who need the wake up call?
Sorry I don’t follow you.
I’m sure I went too far. Let’s allow that idea to lay.
Yeah your idea simply made no sense.
It’s a good idea. But it’s not for me to explain.
These are the interesting times we were promised.
I wonder what food they are storing in their bunkers, probably not cans of Spam.
Most things are nothing more than smoke and mirrors to get your money. Tech especially. Welcome to end stage capitalism.
you hope this is end stage, but I fear there are 2 more stages to go.
The idea behind end-stage capitalism is that capitalists have, by now, penetrated and seized control of every market in the world. This is important because capitalism requires ever increasing rates of profits or you will be consumed by your competitor. Since there are no longer new labor pools and resource pool discovery is slackening, capitalists no longer have anywhere to expand.
Therefore, capitalists begin turning their attention back home, cutting wages and social safety nets, and resorting to fascism when the people complain.
This is the end stage of capitalism. The point at which capitalists begin devouring their own. Rosa Luxembourg famously posited that at this point, the world can choose “Socialism or Barbarism.” In other words, we can change our economic system, or we can allow the capitalists to sink to the lowest depths of depravity and drag us all down as they struggle to maintain their position.
Of course, if the capitalists manage to get to space, that opens up a whole new wealth of resources, likely delaying the end of their rule.
That’s the ticket, let’s send the billionaires and telephone sanitizer into space.
They will still require someone to fund their space luxury lifestyle.
Someone they can exploit from the safety of their space boxes.That someone will be the us that you hid inside the “let’s”.
We will be the ones sending them into space, where they will be even more unreachable, giving them more freedom to remotely exploit us as much as they wish.Imagine Elysian
Imagine Hitchhikers guide to the Galaxy.
I’ll have to read it first, to imagine it :P
spoiler for HGTG
In the book, the doers and thinkers trick the middle men into getting into space arcs and fleeing the planet. Telephone sanitizers are included with the middle men. I will include the overly wealthy also.
I can’t see the current batch of robber barons going into space. The technology isn’t advanced enough and the infrastructure does not exist. They may risk sending other people there to work on these deficiencies.
Yeah, we aren’t all crouching naked in a muddy puddle, weeping and eating worms while the rich fly high above us in luxurious jets. Not yet, anyway.
I’d say it’s not end stage but instead a new dawn of “pure” capitalism which is probably worse.
Long ago, I’d make a Google search for something, and be able to see the answer in the previews of my search results, so I’d never have to actually click on the links.
Then, websites adapted by burying answers further down the page so you couldn’t see them in the previews and you’d have to give them traffic.
Now, AI just fucking summarizes every result into an answer that has a ~70% of being correct and no one gets traffic anymore and the results are less reliable than ever.
Make it stop!
Best I can offer is https://github.com/searxng/searxng
I run it at home and have configured it as the default search engine in all my browsers.
I used searx for at least a year, it’s great
its also using biased sources, like blogs, and such into the slop.
Exactly. AI will take any old random slob’s opinion and present it as fact.
Make it stop!
Would you accept a planned economy?
You know, Im going to get downvoted to fuck for this… but. The same was said about LGBT stuff being pushed into every tv show and movie. Every DEI announcement by whatever company. There was a point that I was walking through Tesco, and over the loud speaker I was being reminded that “Tesco is supportive of Trans people”. Like thats something that anyone cares about while shopping for frozen chips.
Its funny that we recognise the corporate bullshit when its AI, or NFTs or the Metaverse, or whatever else corporations have tried to push over the years. But when it was LGBT related, all of sudden we created a whole culture war around it. Mean while, companies like Adidas are selling rainbow shit to morons every pride month while at the same time shovelling large amounts of money in to things like the World Cup in Qatar that still has the death penalty on the table for being gay…
The virtue signal went so fucking hard. And that caused the virtue signal against it to go just as hard. Meanwhile, all the LGBT people are looking around at everyone during pride month and trying to not laugh at all the straight people doing this:
I just find it curious that we can see it with AI, but when its LGBT thats being pushed, all of sudden, its fine. Its totally fine, to use LGBT people like product to market and profit from.
I dunno, these don’t feel the same to me.
Having LGBTQ representation is a way of trying to attract customers: “Get a Mastercard because we’re LGBTQ friendly” is different than your boss saying “Jim, I know you have a wife and kids to support, and that you’re a valuable member on this team; but we’ve decided it’s more cost effective to have this LLM code our app and have two junior developers clean up the code, so you’re being laid off.”
The quote I’ve seen and agree with is something along the lines of “The AI push exists to try and give the owners of ‘Capital’ access to ‘Talent’ without giving the talented working class people access to ‘Capital’.” It exists solely to try and make paying workers redundant.
Having a gay character in a show isn’t anything like that at all IMO, unless your the type of person who thinks homosexuality is contagious and/or that you’re scared you might realize you’re gay if you watch two men being romantic with each other.
It isnt, its the same.
“Get this because current popular thing!!!”
Thats it. Strip away the bullshit, and this is all you are left with. What youve described isnt what Im talking about. What Im talking about is the forced inclusion of all this shit. AI in your food app, AI in your Amazon app, AI in your banking app, AI in everything. Because its popular.
No company has to tell me that they are inclusive. I just assume that they hire the best person who applied for any given job. If that person was LGBT, I fully expect them to have given that person the job. If you have to tell me that you are, that means you werent. I dont have to tell you that I didnt kill anyone, do I? Just like you dont have to tell me that youve never raped anyone. We just assume that people are utter cunts, and go from there. So why does anyone need to tell me that they support human beings? Which is what LGBT people are. Human beings. Right?
No company has to tell me that they are inclusive. I just assume that they hire the best person who applied for any given job. If that person was LGBT, I fully expect them to have given that person the job. If you have to tell me that you are, that means you werent.
Welcome to being gay in society just a short few years ago. We live in a world where Alan Turing was arrested, charged, and convicted of being homosexual and chemically castrated as a result. It didn’t matter that he helped the Allies win WW2 and he wasn’t hurting anyone, it was a crime to be gay. When AIDS was first ravaging the homosexual community, there was talk of just letting it run rampant as it was just killing ‘the gays’ not anyone important.
I’m happy that we’ve made progress as a society that this isn’t as well known anymore, but that doesn’t change that it did happen.
Welcome to being gay in society just a short few years ago. We live in a world where Alan Turing was arrested, charged, and convicted of being homosexual and chemically castrated as a result.
I dont live in 1952, mate.
When AIDS was first ravaging the homosexual community, there was talk of just letting it run rampant as it was just killing ‘the gays’ not anyone important.
Theres always “talk” about everything. In 2015, a black dude tweeted “Kill all the white people”. Should white people be scared? In the 1980s, there was a lot of bigotry. Im not shocked that some people said dumb shit like this, or probably worse.
No one is talking about progress, we are talking about virtue signalling in 2025. Like I said, Adidas, coke, Kia, Mcdonalds, and the rest. All “LGBT FRIENDS!!!” when it suits them, and ONLY when it suits them. This isnt progress. Its popular thing, and its fucking boring. If you want to have a gay black James Bond. Thats fine. But the minute you start making it all about how horrible it is being gay and black, no one cares. Thats not what Bond is. Bond can be gay and he can be black. But he cant be a stereotype to find some need of cunts to “feel seen”. A black gay Bond, still needs to be James fucking Bond. Thats what people want to see. Some some mopey git trauma dumping on to the audience, they tune out. The want action, they want one liners, the want big explosions and hot chicks… A tough ask for a gay Bond, but you get the idea. This is what people hate. They dont hate LGBT people, they hate the insistence that LGBT people are only ever victims. This is why I point to Black Sails. Lead a gay man seeking revenge for the death of his lover. Its universal. Anyone can empathise with his motivations. The British killed his lover, and now hes going bring down the whole Empire as a pirate. What could be more awesome than that??? Ill tell you, nothing. Because the show is fucking awesome.
Why did everyone put their pro nouns in their twitter bios? It was understandable when it was people who werent what you would automatically assume that they were. So why did everyone who didnt deviate from their assumed pro nouns do it? Could be, because they all wanted to get in on “current thing”? And you know what else those people did? They attacked people who didnt put pro nouns in their bios. Like Gina Carano. A fucking moron who posted moron shit. And this gaggle of cave brained cunts had me siding with her, because no one, and I mean fucking no one, should be getting rape and death threats because they dont conform to the idea of what someone else thinks they should be or should be doing.
If someone is cunt, out them. I’ve just outed a bunch of companies. And you can too. No one needs to tell me they are kind of human beings. I just assume they are. And I sure as shit dont travel back 70 fucking years to say why we need to virtue signal today.
afaik Qatar doesnt do death penalties just Jail time(7 years).
It does. Civil law is as you stated. But Sharia law doesnt. The only saving factor is that it does appear to be used, but it is there in their laws. You CAN be put to death for being gay.
But even taking that away, seven years for loving someone? Fuck, seven years for just hooking up with someone is bullshit. And no should be giving them money or allowing them to wash their shitty human rights abuses in any way. The world cup is supposed to be for everyone. And last I checked, being LGBT was a part of everyone. They had no business being awarded the tournament, and even less business being sponsored by Adidas, Coca Cola, Kia, Visa and everyone else should have told them to go fuck themselves. Instead, they were only too happy to give money over. Because making money>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LGBT people. And no amount of rainbow merch is gonna make up for the utter betrayal of LGBT people that these companies commit every single day.
