They will also delete any comments that complain about AI at all, even though there is no rule against it.
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After second look, that’s not entirely true, but they definitely have a trigger finger for it and leave plenty of other “off-topic” comments.
Considering the amount of posts deleted, it should have just been locked instead of nuking comments with a negative view of AI
Here’s the thread in the screenshot:
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/43426671/18476015
Also, here you can see other’s seem to think this was an attempt to silence dissent (though, I don’t think that this coming from drag is a great point for it):
https://lemmy.ca/post/43313594
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Just look at this completely insane comment from an instance admin:
Hey y’all, dbzer0 admin there. We’re not anti Genai as a technology in general but we’re absolutely anti-corporate genai. I believe the only valid way to use genai is if all weights are open source and all output is in the commons. I generally hate the current techbro Ai bubble and we have no stake in it. However I will defend proles using genai for their own entertainment as much as I will defend proles using piracy likewise. We think the world is would be better without copyrights. AMA.
I believe that as it currently stands, AI is too closely tied to big corporations, especially for the average person. So, without specifically including the caveat of “this thing was generated using an open source, locally run model” or something along those lines, it’s reasonable to assume it was generated by using big corp-run AI giving them more data and power over the individuals. I also think giving too much credence to AI gives the big techbro AI bubble more value and power. Additionally, AI makes it exceedingly easy for low-quality or nefarious content to proliferate and effectively choke-out thoughtful content, similar to how misinformation/disinformation takes over factual information. Like I mentioned, I agree that ‘AI is just a tool’, but that doesn’t exclude it from being extremely frequently abused, which then puts a sour taste in my mouth. I could go on for why I tend to dislike AI in general while acknowledging what possible benefits there may be for it. None of my reasoning is founded on any of the claims db0 users were trying to force onto me.
According to your fellow admin and other very loud and rude users from db0 (whose behaviors have been validated by the same admin), that makes me a “right-wing neoliberal”. Instead of engaging in a discussion about it, those people instead berated me and kept pushing the same idea.
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To add to this, I think a big contention point is that there is no rule against stating that you don’t like AI or reasons to dislike AI, but the user’s hostility were a reaction as if that were the case. If there were an instance or community rule for that, then these reactions would be understandable (though, still an overreaction IMO).
It seems to me that if you go to a community and are rude about the memes being shared you should be able to take some rudeness back.
I would agree with you if the rudeness was at a similar level, or if the claims made in response weren’t absolutely unfounded.
Not to mention a moderator, let alone an admin, should be held to a higher standard.
We’re anarchists. We absolutely demand to be held at the same standard as everyone else.
Well that would be nice if at least that was being upheld.
But the point of being held to a higher standard is because trust is an important factor. If an admin can’t handle themselves better than the average person, then they shouldn’t be entrusted with the responsibilities they carry. That’s a standard that is equal for all people. If you are entrusted with responsibility that requires a higher than normal amount of trust, then you are expected to handle yourself in those situations better than the average person
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You also just ignored the other point, the main point, so that you can virtue-signal how much of an anarchist you are.
Based on your own actions, or lack of action, it doesn’t seem you are here with genuine intent and instead it seems you are here more for damage control.
You also just ignored the other point, the main point, so that you can virtue-signal how much of an anarchist you are.
Right wing buzzwords, no wonder you don’t like anarchists.
- Goes into a community.
- Ignores the rules and community and says they’re wrong for doing something in their free time on their own space.
- Gets the rules applied to them and told to stop, golden rule is applied to them when they were being rude in the first place.
- Complains about mod abuse on another community, claiming victim that rules were enforced on them.
Can we leave the “I have my first amendment rights to say anything I want, anywhere I want!” reddit bullshit on reddit? I know lemmy.world is Reddit 2 but man this is weird.
You’re now participating in what was described in db0 as a “brigade”. Especially with your disingenuous “”“summary”“” of events.
How much more hypocrisy can you db0 people rack up here?
Sure dude, its a grand conspiracy with all 4 people from db0 here. We run ultra-secret discords and matrix to target users by down voting them, the most intense form of harassment. /srs
If you go into communities, respect their rules.
The pure ironic hypocrisy is just 🤌
The hypocrisy of…?
As an Anarcho-Syndicalist (basically as far left as you can possibly get), multiple things can be simultaneously true:
- Private property is theft as is copyright
- Art should be publically funded
- Capitalism is fundamentally evil
- AI is theft
- Tech bros are bootlickers
AI is a fundamentally reactionary tool, it does not serve the worker and does little more than serve the capitalist. It feeds off of real work that real workers do so that capitalists can claim that they can do work like real workers. However they cannot, only a true worker can make art and music. Art and music comes from what fundamentally makes us human, thats why AI and Capitalists cannot make art.
DOWN TO REACTION, DOWN TO THE DECEIVERS, DOWN TO THE TYRANTS
Hey I would appreciate it if you didn’t use all caps like trump, makes me want to not be associated with you even as a sympathetic left-liberal.
ALL CAPS ALL THE TIME
The db0 instance has been the #1 disappointment for me on Lemmy.
If you count yourself as a leftist and advocate of electronic freedoms… but you find yourself on the opposing side against Robert Evans, Molly White, and Cory Doctorow, you might wanna reconsider whether you’ve been scammed into a libertarian tech bro version of Freedom™.
Nonsense. If people used genai the way we suggest in dbzer0, AI techbros would be in ruins. We’re also generally in the same camp as those people you mention (even though they’re still libs) but we still have disagreements since, well, we’re not libs and don’t think there’s any merit to things like copyrights.
Getting reports over content in different instances. -_-
If someone comes here pushing AI slop then yeah I’m not opposed to whipping out the banhammer, but I don’t really care what folks are posting elsewhere, and I’d rather not see Fuck AI become focused on drama in other communities.
Up or downvote as you see fit, but please don’t use the report button as an ‘extra big-ass downvote!’
