• Baguette@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Not really equivalent

      Companies have the jurisdiction to decide who to hire, and it’s painfully obvious if someone doesn’t know their own major

      And if a degree doesn’t lead to career growth, it doesn’t really mean much unfortunately.

      A college using ai to teach hundreds of students benefits none of the students, even the ones that genuinely want to learn

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        Yeah. I would. I bust my ass to get a degree only to get a job that others skated by using AI to pass their exams?

        Yeah. I’d be furious.

        Hospitals use AI. The military uses AI. I’d be fine if a college course was taught by AI as long as the material was useful and I got real-world education from it.

        Because this way, I learn something. When some kid uses AI to circumvent learning the material…

        WE ALL FAIL.

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          Wait, so you think its okay to use the bullshit machine for mission critical work, but when its something completely non-consequential like your strawman college student who managed to get a degree and get hired by you using AI, thats when theres a problem???

          If I found out my fucking doctor was using this LLM bullshit to diagnose me, im getting the fuck out and finding another doctor because that tells me I might as well be diagnosing myself using chatgpt.

          Your false equivalency argument is failing you tremendously, not to mention the fact you brought this up for absolutely no reason other than to stir shit up. Students using AI has nothing to do with the University or College stealing money from students and replacing professors with AI. One falls on a large respected organization. The other falls on Billy Schmoe who any hiring manager could look at and know won’t be a good fit.

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            But you’d be okay to find out your doctor used LLM to pass exams? I hope not!

            Also, I’m not saying that the counter to my point isn’t relevant. Not once did I dismiss it.

            I’m simply saying that it is my opinion that being out the cost of a college course is a personal financial issue- whereas having people not actually earn their degree is something that hurts everyone.

            But… you seem like you just want to argue, so we can be done here.

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          Even following that logic, putting in effort to learn hallucinated material will not result well.

          Let me clarify, we should ask for both. We should want non-AI professors AND non-cheating students.

          In the failure of second case, a good 96% of students are wrong by the end of the semester. (Yes cheating in CS is that bad)

          In the failure of first case, EVERY student is wrong by the end of the semester. Even the ones that put in effort.

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            It would be an assumed given that whatever curriculum was being taught would have been proofed beforehand.

            And yes. We should expect both. I’m simply saying that from my perspective- more people are hurt by people using LLM to cheat exams.