Everyone have their own “hot takes” that either work as a valid opinion, or ragebait for drama. Personally, I have one that if I’m saying it to you all, maybe considered to be “too serious😈🤡”. The hot takes itself is . . .

God Never forbid man to do their [hobbies/fun], (toxic) society did

How about yours? I like to hear alongside the reason why ;)

(Edit: I’m aware that some takes may kinda too far and too deep, so let’s keep it casual)

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      I mean, even though it has a wider audience it is still mostly targeted at kids/teens. I do agree though that it is a bit overrated (and surprising homogenous).

      As for the creepy part, yeah can’t argue with you on that. I think it’s gotten a bit better over the years, but it’s still hard recommending shows sometimes.

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    Eating animals shouldn’t be socially acceptable and people who do should be treated like someone smoking in a public space.

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      The problem is it’s one of the most normal things in our culture. I’m guilty of it myself. I’d like to be vegan someday but I have other things to attend to before that’s a possibility.

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      My hot take is that meat shouldn’t at least not be substidized. Meat is comically cheap for what it is and everyone has to pay for it. I only treat myself to some fake salmon that is carrot based because it’s somehow more expensive than actual salmon. I often heard the argument that poor people would suffer because of it. If they REALLY need to eat meat then, like I don’t know, tough titty. Buy your own animal to torture.

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        In the 80s, shopping malls had ashtrays at the end of every bench. Every workplace had a cloud of cigarette smoke at every entrance that you had to walk through. It’s much much more socially unacceptable to smoke cigarettes than it used to be.

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          Both of those things are still happening? At least if the benches are outside.

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            I’m talking about indoors. You could walk around smoking cigarettes inside the shopping mall. Nowadays most places in the world ban smoking in indoor public spaces and within whatever distance from building entrances. I don’t think there’s a shipping mall in North America that allows smoking indoors.

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              Ok. I usually don’t think of indoor when I read “in public”. Obviously you can’t smoke inside a store, not even in the 80s.

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                Perhaps not in a clothing store but you sure could smoke in supermarkets in the 80s and shopping carts even had ashtrays on them.

                Edit: oops I’m being told that there were ashtrays in the fitting rooms and bathrooms in clothing stores too but as a kid my clothes were cash and carry.

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    Valve is just as morally bankrupt as other video game companies, their products are just better.

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      I have definitely voiced this one.

      The reaction was about what you would expect; I would have faired better had I kicked a puppy.

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      I am curious how you came to this opinion. If Valve were as morally bankrupt as other companies then they would prioritize short-term profit over the user experience, but that doesn’t seem to be people’s experience. They’re profitable due to their decision to prioritize the user over their bottom line. That’s what makes their product better.

      Without a doubt, it’s still a transaction between you and a corporation, but it seems to me to be a more equitable one than other game distribution companies.

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        Mainly how they happily profit off unregulated gambling using their in-game items, despite the fact that it has led countless minors to becoming gambling addicts. (People Make Games has a great video on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMmNy11Mn7g)

        Rockstar has union busting, Blizzard and Ubisoft have sexual misconduct, Riot has gender discrimination, Roblox has pedophiles, Nintendo has frivolous lawsuits and Valve has underage gambling… the list goes on.

        I’m sure if you really wanted to, you could create a ranking, but really what’s the point? They are all awful in their own way.

        Don’t get me wrong, I use Steam and I even own a Valve Index. I like their products a lot. But we should still be able to point out the clearly terrible stuff they do, just like with the companies whose products we perhaps don’t care for.

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    The Imperial system is easier to use for every day things. Metric is good for science and engineering, when precision and conversions are important, but for things like estimating, baking, driving, and weather, Imperial units are functionally more useful.

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        Base 12 and base 16 are superior to base 10 for use without measuring tools. The only reason we use base 10 is that we have 10 fingers.

        If metric were objectively superior, then we’d all be using metric time as well. But it’s easier to divide hours and minutes into halves and quarters in a base 60 system.

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          I don’t understand the “easier to use without measuring tools” part. Can you explain it a bit more?

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            Sure, so Imperial units aren’t like one set of cohesive measurements, they are based on units of measure that can be easily estimated without a measuring tool. A foot is about the length of a foot. A cup is a cup. A mile is a thousand paces. 0 degrees Fahrenheit was the coldest outside temperature in the place where Fahrenheit lived, and 90 was the temp of a human body.

            All of these measurements were standardized and adjusted for accuracy and precision when standards were determined, but the idea was that people didn’t need to have a set of calibrated instruments with accurate measurements marked on them in order to use them. Most people didn’t carry rulers and graduated cylinders around, and even though those things are widely available now, you still probably don’t carry them with you. They are in your house, in a drawer, waiting to be used only when certainty is required.

            And even the conversions are meant to be functional without tools. When they standardized the length of a foot and an inch, it could have easily been adjusted to be 10 inches to a foot. 12 was used because it is easier to divide 12 without accurate markings. If you have a string that is 12 inches, fold it in half to get 6 inches, fold it again to get three inches. Or fold it in thirds (three equal lengths) and you have four inches. Fold that in half twice over again and you have an inch. Likewise, a gallon is 16 cups, because 16 can be divide in half 4 times to get a cup. Conversion by division means you don’t need to have as many different tools. A pound of sand and a balance can be used to find an ounce of sand without any additional tools, and you could probably get pretty close without the balance.

            It is rarely important to be able to convert inches to miles. The ratio between them is arbitrary, because they are meant to measure vastly different things. Both are length, but an inch is the ground covered by a worm in a single contraction, and a mile is the ground covered by an army after a thousand paces. It’s dead simple to convert milimeters to kilometers, but how often do you actually need to do that accurately?

            100 degree F is very hot outside. 0 degrees is very cold. Upper third is beach weather, be careful about overheating. Lower third, might snow, be careful about freezing to death. Water boils over a fire, and that’s about as accurate as you need to be most days. Modern digital tools and electronics have simplified all of these processes. The only time people actually need to use Imperial conversion rates is in school when you learn (and are tested on) how many feet are in a mile or how many BTUs it takes to raise the temperature of half a cup of water by 7 degrees. Of course that’s going to suck because it’s like mining for coal with a garden trowel. That’s not what it’s meant for. But you also wouldn’t use a backhoe to plant petunias, either.

            I grew up using both Imperial and metric. Both have their uses, and both have pros and cons. Personally, I hate trying to describe the weather in Celsius. The differences between too hot and too cold are crammed between -20 to 40 degrees. What kind if scale is that? The difference between 38 and 43 is life threatening. Why should the boiling point of water be relevant to choosing between a sweater and a tee shirt? I don’t need to find the joules it will take to defrost 17 grams of ice on my car window. The benefits of the metric system are not relevant to my everyday existence, nor are the disadvantages of the Imperial system.

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              That is a very interesting take. I can’t relate to most of the advantages of imperial you mentioned since I’ve grown up with primarily metric. Exposure to a specific system for a certain period of time lets the mind just acclimate to that system (calculations inclusive), and conversion to imperial just feels like a chore to me. That being said, I can definitely see where you’re coming from.

              Thank you for this detailed answer.

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                Of course! You’ve hit the nail on the head, in that anyone can get used to anything if you grow up with it. Your brain wraps itself around your environment, and the language and descriptions you grow up with are the framework for your understanding of things.

                It’s like naming colors of the rainbow. The number of discrete colors you see depends on the number of discrete names your language has for those colors. Roy G Biv is just one method of delineation. Some languages don’t separate blue and green, or red and orange. We actually see millions of colors, but our brain structures categories based on the words we have to describe them.

                We use base 10 numbering, because we have five fingers on each hand. Imaging what the metric system would look like if 360 million years ago, some polydactyl mutant managed to win the evolutionary tournament of reproduction, and we all had an extra thumb on the opposite side of our hands. Baseball gloves would look super weird, and we would have a duodecimal metric system where 100 cm could be evenly divided by three or six, but not five, and a foot would be 10 inches without changing either length.

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      Awesome that this is the one that has more downvotes than upvotes (at the moment from my instance: 2/4)

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        It’s my go-to controversial opinion when I want to practice arguing against a consensus. Most people who have an opinion on the matter think that they are being rational about it, but in my experience people have strong emotional responses to feet and inches because of the psychological trauma of math tests in primary school.

        You think about feet and miles, and you probably think of a worksheet with word problems, with Henry and Jessica travelling on two trains going in different directions. Or maybe your mind goes to a detailed chart you have on a refrigerator magnet for how many pints of milk you need to buy for 16 guests if 60% of them put two tablespoons in their coffee every day for a three day weekend. You’re probably angry just reading that sentence, and I know it raised my blood pressure writing it. You don’t actually need to do that math, you just buy a gallon of milk and run to the store if you need more. It’s not even really easier if it’s liters of milk and 35 mL per coffee.

        And that’s for people who live in the USA. I’ve also found that people outside of the US resent Americans for using such an objectively inferior system. It reinforces the perception of an arrogant, impetuous, lazy and selfish nation of obliviously uneducated consumers forcing the rest of the world to accommodate our obstinate fat-ass ignorance.

        So either way, people who have an opinion probably have strong emotional reactions to that opinion being challenged.

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    Without getting too specific: there are some completely harmless kinks between consenting adults that I still want to kink shame.

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      I feel like kinks ought to be private anyway. Sharing them feels intimate in a way that is a violation of shared civil spaces. What people do in private doesn’t bother me in the slightest, but if your kink requires making me uncomfortable by telling me what you’re into, I have every right to decline to be a part of your sexual gratification.

      To be clear, I’m not talking about LGBTQ+ communities or people who like to wear revealing clothing. That’s not a kink. But if you’re dressed like a puppy and being led around on a leash with a visible erection, then you should be a little bit ashamed for involving me without my consent. There are private spaces for private conversations and private activities. I should be able to ride the bus without getting jizzed on by a masturbating homeless man.

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      Speaking of kinks: wanting to hurt people’s feelings for no other reason than to your own enjoyment would be labeled as sadism.

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    I have an appropriately silly one to share that people get tended to get upset about elsewhere.

    Professional wrestling used to be interesting, but Vince McMahon destroyed it piece by piece. The “hot take” is that I have despised Vince McMahon since the early nineties, because he was an awful commentator and it’s been abundantly clear he’s human garbage for forty fucking years!

    Strangely, people get mad about that!

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    All changes to MLB post integration were bad. Wearing black/navy jerseys during a day game in 95F heat in Atlanta or Cincinnati? Bad. The designated hitter? Bad. The New York Mets? Bad

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    Just pointing out statistical facts seems to be a very controversial thing to do, because it doesn’t fit into many people’s delusional narratives about the world works. done it here plenty of times and then got told that the us census and the us labor bureau are corrupt and evil orgs who only spread lies.

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      The three levels of lying, Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics.

      People share statistics like they are proof of some conclusion or another. It’s a half-assed way of pretending their prejudices are supported by data. Racists like to share shit like “Black Americans represent 12% of the adult population, but 35% of the prison population” in order to imply that black people are inherently more likely to be criminals.

      Of course, they won’t come out and say “white people are superior because they are more civilized” because that would be an odious and distasteful statement. But they will imply the fuck out of it, because these people don’t understand the relationship between statistics and evidence. A single statistic in isolation can be twisted to mean anything you like.

      The very same racial disproportion could be used to concluse that systemic racism in the judicial system is more likely to convict black people and sentence them more harshly. In reality, it proves neither conclusion by itself. You have to control for socio-economic factors and prosecution rates and population density and education levels and employment numbers and and and.

      The more statistics you have, the easier it is to selectively control for a desired outcome. But from a scientific perspective, there is nothing biological or psychological that is inherent to any particular “race” because the concept of race is mostly a conglomerate of prejudices to begin with.

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        statistics are a tool. you can misuse them and abuse them. i can use a hammer to build houses, or bash people in the skull.

        in and of themselves if used properly, as in contextualised and verified, they are great. I’m talking about actual statistics themselves, not the bullshit cherry picked interpretation of them.

        but yes, stupid people will freak out murders went up 400% because this year 4 people were murdered and last year it was one.

        the quote you are references is from politician figures distorting statistics to push their agendas. just like they make scandals over sex in video games and media and other non-issues to rile up and lie to their voters. just like trump is going on about this wave of criminality that doesn’t exist.

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      This reminds me of a video I saw the other day by that guy (I think he works for The Daily Show) that goes to interview crazy MAGA people. One guy says that people will easily change their minds if shown proof they are wrong. Interviewer points out that many studies have shown that doesn’t work, people are deeply entrenched in their beliefs even if data proves them wrong, citing sources and everything. Random dude just goes “yea, I still think it works though”…

      Like, holy shit, you couldn’t script some of this shit without people claiming your writing sucks.

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        the issue is that people who are wrong thing everyone else is wrong.

        just like on lemmy every communist/anarchist thinks anyone who does agree with them is a nazi and if ONLY they would read the manifestos they’d see the light and truth of their beliefs… meanwhile also whining about religions folks who do the same things.

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    Hot Take:

    every high school should have an entry test >!(idk what it is called in english but it is a test to see how strong is your knowleage)!< because middle school is so unserious and can vary so much depending where you are from.

    I was on a lower side of the entry for my high school but am somehow better than people who got almost full points! It is so unfair and doesn’t AT ALL take into account actual knowlage and take seats from people who are actually interested AND can keep up with the program.

    If most of the class can’t keep up you end up with few talented students who are way ahead of the class, but must wait for the others because underpaid teachers can’t (or wont) do personilized classes to everyone so they just take the slowest student and set theirs standards to that.

    Yes this is more like a rant, SUPER biased and I don’t still think the tests are a solution since they just fix the symtoms of the cause, but I stand by that some people should not be able to take schools they are taking no matter how many times they say they got there “fair and square”.

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      In my school, they separated kids into different classes per grade by academic performance. So no honors students having to put up with the muggles. Made for a very peaceful time.

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      I know we’re doing hot takes but seriously please no more barriers to education that filter out people who had the misfortune of going to shitty schools. We gotta find some other way to help people where they are without impeding people who are more advanced; just kicking them out is a good way to entrench poverty.

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        I don’t think HS testing is great either but just to note that japan does it and they don’t have high poverty rates

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    This Bob Vylan lyric fits nicely:

    Big dreams sat swelling in my head

    Big dreams, big boy, small bed

    Wanna share 'em all but the last time I did

    I learnt some things are better left unsaid