• wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    179
    ·
    19 days ago

    Some more evidence this is motivated by racism and evil (I know, redundant to say) is that if there was even an ounce of logic in these fuckers heads they would either escort the kid home, or tail/surveil him to identify his home, then grab the whole family.

    This is not how you would run an organized campaign actually attempting to achieve their stated goals. This is intentionally causing extra emotional distress and chaos.

    I know, I know, that’s been the obvious case the whole time. Just had to get this scream into the void.

    Like, I don’t get how anyone could support this. Even the racists. If you want these people out why would you cheer for such an obviously horrifically mismanaged clusterfuck? Ugh.

    Reality needs to get some better writers, this shit is getting too unbelievable.

    • mtpender@piefed.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      84
      ·
      19 days ago

      They’re just straight-up Brown Shirts at this point, the chaos is the point. What’s funnier to me is that they think they wont be given the “Night of the Long Knives” treatment.

      • Whostosay@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        25
        ·
        19 days ago

        Only silver lining is that it’s right around the corner, I’ve seen paranoid dictator. I have yet to see dementia riddled dumbass brain paranoid dictator.

    • Schmoo@slrpnk.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      22
      ·
      19 days ago

      If you want these people out why would you cheer for such an obviously horrifically mismanaged clusterfuck? Ugh.

      Because they’re too stupid/brainwashed to understand how much of a clusterfuck ICE is. You really expect someone who thinks Trump is a genius to think through the logistics of mass deportation? Racists are emotionally dysregulated; any powers of analytical reasoning are dominated by visceral fear and revulsion that overpowers everything else.

      • Manjushri@piefed.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        19 days ago

        They don’t only want them out. They want them terrorized and brutalized. This is exactly what they want.

        • Ketchup@reddthat.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          19 days ago

          What scares me more than that fact is listening to the conservatives my town is overwhelmed by saying; “I don’t like Trump, he’s repugnant, but this is necessary for our country to shift its politics into a better direction”. That my friends is a horrifying encouragement. Might as well say. “I dont want people terrorized and brutalized, there’s just no other way”

    • jack_of_sandwich@lemmy.sdf.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      19 days ago

      What’s weird is if the point was getting rid of illegal immigrants… wouldn’t in start in Texas which has a lot of illegal immigrants and where the citizens complain about illegal immigrants?

      Why aren’t the citizens of Texas mad that all this money and effort is being spent in Minnesota, rather than in THEIR state?

    • Passerby6497@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      edit-2
      19 days ago

      Like, I don’t get how anyone could support this. Even the racists. If you want these people out why would you cheer for such an obviously horrifically mismanaged clusterfuck? Ugh

      I think there’s a really crucial fact that you’re unaware of or don’t want to acknowledge: the cruelty is the point. The republicans and their base don’t care that their immigration policy isn’t effective, the tactics are there for social media likes and to instill terror in migrants who may want to come here so they stay home.

      The irony is that these fucking window lickers complain about how bad the “authoritarian” rulers are down south while actively cheering on an authoritarian wanna be ruler. They never cared about anything other than power and hurting minorities.

      • Soggy@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        30
        ·
        19 days ago

        The backing of the Commander In Chief, Congress, and the Supreme Court. Written laws don’t matter right now.

    • MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      19 days ago

      Please. Imagine if this wasn’t in a “first” world country. Imagine if say France or South Africa was doing this. The whole world would be complaining and shouting about how bad it is. But since the USA is “one of the good ones” we just turning a blind eye???

  • WoodScientist@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    64
    ·
    19 days ago

    We need to extradite ICE agents to the home countries of their victims. Let them stand trial there, in a place they may actually face justice.

    • leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      62
      ·
      19 days ago

      The home country of many (if not most) of their victims is the USA.

      Sure, ICE are inhumane nazi monsters, but extraditing them to that god forsaken shithole would evidently count as cruel and unusual, even for the likes of them.

      Not only that, but “justice” there is a tragic parody of itself; they’d inevitably end up back on the streets.

      Don’t overcomplicate it. Just put them down like the rabid pigs they are, and then go for the even more monstrous bastards that sicced them on the streets.

      • WoodScientist@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        19 days ago

        The home country of many (if not most) of their victims is the USA.

        This is demonstrably false. Yes, the US citizens killed or violated by ICE are heavily reported, but ICE mostly targets its actual targets - immigrants.

        It would not be cruel and unusual punishment. Here are the countries the US currently has an extradition treaty with (in blue), image from Wikipedia:

        If you’re wanted for a serious crime in any nation in Latin America, you will be extradited. If you go down to Peru, rape or murder someone, and manage to get back to the states before being caught? If the Peruvian government requests it, the US government will happily put your ass on a plane and send you down to Lima to face the Peruvian justice system. You probably won’t be extradited for shoplifting. But for serious crimes, absolutely.

        I’m not talking about deporting ICE agents to failed or war-torn states with no functioning justice systems. I’m talking about the kinds of countries that we regularly extradite people to. And this would be no different. It could all be done under existing law. Unlike your plan of “just put the pigs down.”

        • Passerby6497@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          19 days ago

          This is demonstrably false. Yes, the US citizens killed or violated by ICE are heavily reported, but ICE mostly targets its actual targets - immigrants.

          [Citation needed]

          Also, regime sources don’t count as a valid citation

          • WoodScientist@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            19 days ago

            What’s with your white savior complex? You really think the harm done to the handful of US citizens arrested or brutalized at protests outweighs the harm done to tens of thousands of immigrants? How many immigrants are dying in ICE dungeons or once they’re cast onto the streets of countries they’ve never even been to?

            How self centered do you have to be to think that cases like Rene Good represent the typical ICE victim. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills. “The majority of ICE’s victims are immigrants” is not a statement that needs defending. It was created to brutalize immigrants, and that’s mostly what it’s doing.

            • Passerby6497@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              edit-2
              19 days ago

              I quoted targets, not victims, galaxy brain.

              I don’t think ice is doing anything other than mass targeting minorities, they don’t care about citizen vs noncitizens. And to the larger point, I don’t care if the people targeted are citizens or not, I care that people are being targeted AT ALL, so you can fuck entirely off with your dumb bullshit.

              Making it about citizen vs noncitizen is willingly giving into their narrative, and I’ll gladly take heat from idiots to break that.

  • Furbag@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    49
    ·
    19 days ago

    So the administration has quadrupled down on saying they are only going after thugs and criminals and narco terrorists and then they snatch little kids off the street? Because they can’t prove they are a citizen? There isn’t a single person on that ICE squad that can confidently tell me that they carried their identification on them at all times as a kid.

    Republicans, what the fuck is wrong with you? Wake the fuck up and help us stop this insanity.

      • kreskin@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        19 days ago

        So killing people they dont like is normal now, and sweeping up kids and babies. Killing kids is the next ratchet, and then mass killing, and bingo, we’ll have the worst attributes of both Russia and Israel.

      • Sippy Cup@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        19 days ago

        Children are sex objects or racial slurs to Republicans. There is no in between and quite a bit of overlap.

      • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        19 days ago

        These are the people that defended the Family Separation Policy on Trump 1.0. Despite the efforts of the Biden administration, nearly 1000 children were never reunited with their parents, and likely never will be.

        Now that they are under the purview of the MAGA government, we haven’t heard a word. The pretty ones have been sold into sex slavery for sure, the compliant ones will make good house slaves, and the rest will be turned into dog food.

    • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      19 days ago

      Every hang around a 7 year old, with all their 6-7 shit, and what not? They’re ALL little terrorists.

      Good think ICE is here to round up all these terrorist children and babies.

      • Sideshow_B00b@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        18 days ago

        FUCKING FINALLY someone has the courage to say this

        I hope ICE goes after 3 year olds nex so we can also extinguish that disgusting joy of life -thing those little fuckers have

  • Waldelfe@feddit.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    34
    ·
    19 days ago

    Every morning I read the news from the US and am shocked by how much they sound like a homework exercise with the prompt: Imagine the Hitler regime happened today. What would the news headlines look like?

  • mech@feddit.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    32
    ·
    edit-2
    19 days ago

    Fuck ICE but this pic and specific wording sets off my gen AI Facebook bullshit detector.
    Who took that photo and got away? The linked photographer doesn’t exist. If they did, why did a different account post this, and knows what was said verbatim? What is the guy on the left holding?
    What’s written on his chest patch?

    Edit: Correction - The photographer does exist. Can’t find this pic on his socials (which are set to not show anything at least for the public) or his website. That thing on the left does look like a weapon (but I can’t tell which), and there are no 100% clear AI tells in the picture, except it all seems a bit “off” to me, and too perfectly composed to match the very specific and cliche message text.

    Fuck, this shit is getting harder and harder. If there’s one thing AI is getting good at, it’s lying, and manipulating social media algorithms in a way that even legit human posters are pushed to imitate its style. So stay critical even if you agree with the message, and please excuse my premature assessment.

    Edit: 2: Pic is legit, sorry for the mistake!: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/01/ice-descends-on-minneapolis/?hl=en-GB

    • Waldelfe@feddit.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      20
      ·
      edit-2
      19 days ago

      The photo seems to be zoomed in on a smartphone camera. Looks to me like the person who took the picture stood further away and used a digital zoom. And the guy on the left is holding a weapon. The chest patch of the guy on the left is at an angle where you can’t read it anyway. I don’t see signs of AI, just a low quality, zoomed in smartphone picture.

    • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      19 days ago

      If there’s one thing AI is getting good at, it’s lying

      Thank you for summing up the key reason that AI bothers me, giving words to the off-putting feeling in my gut whenever I think about it.

      Theft, attacking artistic integrity, energy-consumption, these are all things I’ve heard and seen people say against it. But the simple fact is that AI is a liar, and it’s muddying the line between truth and fiction in a way that no propaganda can match. It’s insidious, it’s powerful, and it’s everywhere. It sprung up in a time and place where reality was already under attack and poured fuel onto the fire of rampant disinformation.

      • archonet@lemy.lol
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        19 days ago

        worse than a liar; a liar makes you doubt everything the liar says, but generally you don’t lose faith in all information as a result of one person being full of shit.

        AI doesn’t just lie, it lies often enough, convincingly enough, and is ubiquitous enough now that it dilutes the truth and makes everyone (like OP) question harder the validity of everything they see – or, more easily, start believing in nothing outright.

        LLMs are neat tools, if very flawed ones, but image/video genAI is a fucking Torment Nexus that should not have been made.

    • BlanketsWithSmallpox@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      19 days ago

      Ya’ll realize there are still way more regular images and videos than there are people trying to ragebait shooped ai slop right?

      I swear even on reddit people claim the most inocuous shit as AI, or even worse, think good old fashioned special effects aren’t real.

      Captain Disillusion got out at a good time.

  • kreskin@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    26
    ·
    19 days ago

    I hope the families of all these ICE “heros” see this pic and understand that their sons and daughters in ICE are shitbags and that they themselves utterly failed as parents and citizens. Any group that gets their jollies off of abusing minors needs to be dealt with harshly.

    • smeenz@lemmy.nz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      edit-2
      18 days ago

      Yes, but the sorts of parents that raise people who ultimately join ICE already know they did a shit job of parenting, and don’t care. They don’t need more proof.

    • just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      19 days ago

      That was exactly the point, jews were white enough so they needed those patches. Today when nazi are against immigrants, they don’t need those.

      And many people fail to realize that nazism has already spread far and wide. Lemmy is an exception tho

  • mechoman444@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    22
    ·
    18 days ago

    This isn’t how our law enforcement is supposed to work we’re not supposed to prove anything to them. They have to attain enough evidence to arrest someone. The burden of proof is on them, what probable cause did they have to arrest that boy? Is he going to get a probable cause hearing. Is that dhs asshat going to file a report?

    Christ!