Don Piano@feddit.org to Fuck AI@lemmy.world · 22 days agoEurope must choose between AI and climate goals, data center lobby sayswww.politico.euexternal-linkmessage-square61linkfedilinkarrow-up1317file-textcross-posted to: fuck_ai@lemmy.world
arrow-up1317external-linkEurope must choose between AI and climate goals, data center lobby sayswww.politico.euDon Piano@feddit.org to Fuck AI@lemmy.world · 22 days agomessage-square61linkfedilinkfile-textcross-posted to: fuck_ai@lemmy.world
minus-squaredumnezero@piefed.sociallinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·3 days agoWe need that for more important stuff, especially because the effort to replace fossil fuels with renewables is lagging. You don’t get to just add new huge energy uses while the old ones haven’t been moved to renewables.
minus-squarebetanumerus@lemmy.calinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·3 days agoAI use and data centres are definitely being added too quickly.
minus-squaredumnezero@piefed.sociallinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·2 days agoHence, the title of the post here. More AI => more coal and methane burning.
minus-squarebetanumerus@lemmy.calinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·2 days agoThe implication you write is a choice, not a necessity. Corrected: More AI => more energy consumption, where energy is any of coal, methane, solar, nuclear, hydro, wind, etc. Note your unjustified limitation to coal and methane.
minus-squaredumnezero@piefed.sociallinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·19 hours ago More AI => more energy consumption, where energy is any of coal, methane, solar, nuclear, hydro, wind, etc. And have you looked at the state of the others, the investment plans, and how long it takes?
minus-squarebetanumerus@lemmy.calinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·edit-219 hours agoYeah the obstacles are the fossil fuel industry’s PR and lobbying efforts to slow them down. Very much like what you’re doing here and now.
We need that for more important stuff, especially because the effort to replace fossil fuels with renewables is lagging. You don’t get to just add new huge energy uses while the old ones haven’t been moved to renewables.
AI use and data centres are definitely being added too quickly.
Hence, the title of the post here. More AI => more coal and methane burning.
The implication you write is a choice, not a necessity. Corrected:
More AI => more energy consumption, where energy is any of coal, methane, solar, nuclear, hydro, wind, etc.
Note your unjustified limitation to coal and methane.
And have you looked at the state of the others, the investment plans, and how long it takes?
Yeah the obstacles are the fossil fuel industry’s PR and lobbying efforts to slow them down. Very much like what you’re doing here and now.
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