Investigators recovered two stolen trailers carrying $1.3 million in data center supplies, including copper wire and infrastructure equipment.

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      The comment I came in to make sure existed. Thank you for doing the good work.

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      They wouldn’t steal a… oh wait they did.

      Turns out some of this is showing up at other datacenters… Now weve already set precedent that stealing intellectual property isnt stealing if its for training models or some such bullshit… Time to find out if we can legalize piracy in the physical sense as long as were ‘using it differently.’

      Turns out were just a few small steps away from the east india company era again.

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        Or maybe a goose did it, they do things like that sometimes, just watch an untitled goose game let’s play…

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    This is very unfortunate. There is a tremendous amount of copper in these data centers, thieves would be able to steal so much copper from data center job sites. It’s frightening to think about it

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      Not just copper. These server racks are so unfortunately loaded up with parts and components worth a lot of money on the open market. Very unfortunately they have enterprise grade SSDs worth thousands and AI accellerater cards worth 10s of thousands.

      And these poor starving companies very unfortunately don’t have the funds to hire a lot of security staff. It’s sadly usually just one guy.

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      Why there’s so much copper they can make 1.3 million dollars from it and then go to a country that won’t excommunicate them.

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        I think the word you were looking for is extradite, which is sending someone home/to the country where crime was committed, to face their justice system.

        Excommunication is kicking someone out of a religion/the church, specifically christian afaik, though not all use that word :)

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      Honestly, logistical problems with the weight are gonna be one of the first hurdles. It’s way more than you would even think.

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    Young entrepreneurs just pulling at those little bootstraps, Regan would be proud of their ambition in advancing their station.

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      Regan sounds like some sort of sect of veganism. They refrain from consuming animal products unless the animal signed a consent form, which is prolly what’s coming with Neuralink. People can’t handle same sex marriage, so what happens when animals consent? I’m not even a furry, I’m a foot fetishist, but ethical bestiality is coming in the next generation, I would say. And damn is Fox News going to implode!

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            Lucky, we’re taking pre-orders now! The tech will be ready to go in just two years!!!

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              It’s two weeks, silly. That’s how you con an entire country. You just keep the people living paycheck to paycheck thinking it’s all going to change if they just work hard enough to push through this next bit. That’s what’s keeping the machine working, where y’all are cogs n gears n shit

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    Aren’t these data centers built on our land, right next to our homes, using our water and electricity, funded by selling our data (that we didn’t consent to), and the profits all go to giant corporations, not us? Fuck 'em. I hope they all get raided and stripped bare…

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      Do you believe we should be allowed to run open source / weight LLMs like deepseek locally, for our own gain, even though they too have been indirectly trained on our comments / articles / copyrighted books?

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        I’m sure everyone will have varying opinions on it, but if these models were fully open-sourced I’d have less of an issue. What does it for me is that these companies were unwilling to pay creators to use their work in the training data, instead choosing to pirate it to create expensive and locked down AI products which they expect us to pay for.

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          What does it for me is that these companies were unwilling to pay creators to use their work in the training data

          I believe it was logistical impossible. Many books used will probably be scanned and not even be available as ebook or drm protected or out of print. And e.g. Anna’s archive has 64,416,225 books and 95,689,473 papers. Too large to even say what is pirated or nor, or buy every book in a lifetime. And if every book costs you ~$10 that’s close to a billion dollars upfront. Basically creating LLMs wouldn’t have been possible without piracy (or maybe the datasets aren’t actually that extensive).

          It’s hypocritical, but ultimately the same argument for piracy that individuals use: IP laws creates unreasonable restrictions that prevent people from learning (or enjoy culture at a sensible price).

          (I assume you’re not saying you would need a negotiate a specific license to use a book or a public comment or article for machine learning).

          Kinda reminds me of Year Zero by Robert Reid. The whole galaxy full of aliens loves Earth Music but only recently figure the concept of copyright. And how much quintillion moneys they now owe Earth lol.

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        Is that a genuine question that you want to know the answer for, or is it a setup for calling the person you replied to a hypocrit when they say “yes”?

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          I’m honestly curious. I generally agree with everything you said except the IP argument.

          spoiler

          I see a conflict between the argument that training LLMs on publicly visible comments (or books or articles) is stealing, and open weight LLM models. If intellectual property is interpreted like that, it will make free LLMs illegal to use, since the original creators of the training data have not licensed this use (even though this data is publicly readable on websites).

          I would consider it the worst possible outcome if only the AI corporations would be able to profit from the global treasure of our accumulated knowledge. And I suspect that is what is going to happen because they can lobby for some kind of broad licensing deal and pay them off, but for open source it will not work. I believe that is how they will monopolize AI. Then they will truly have stolen it, because they have taken it away from everybody else.

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        Of course. The cat’s already out of the bag on that one. That data belongs to the public, not a handful of companies.

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            Again, not a protected species, also, don’t fucking plant kudzu.

            Plant a state and federally environmentally protected species, native to the area. Plant a bunch of them and then report the plants to local protective agencies and environmentalist groups. Do your best to hide the fact that these are transplanted plants.

            Plant kudzu and all you’re doing is annoying the construction company, forcing them to pave over everything.

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      Wait fr, data centers are the biggest scam to date. They’re using profits from people’s data (that they didn’t consent to give) to build ai models (that use stolen data) that act as chat bots, ai bots, and general slop generators (tainting the data they’re using to keep training the models), as well as killing the planet for little gains (there won’t be a population to survey if we run out resources to survey that population, aka water and electricity. Not entirely sure about the electricity part, but we’re certainly running out of freshwater globally)

      From the bottom to the top, it seems more like a sunk cost fallacy than an actual investment towards a profitable invention. How short sighted are those in power that they don’t realize 100$ now means 0$ later since we’ve killed all plant life from global warming, and we can’t make cash because we can’t make paper. Hell, we might be using water bottles as currency before 2050, if that even scares anyone

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    Clickbait circlejerk slop. Every construction site is a target for thieves. This is just low effort clickbait made to pander to the anti-datacenter circlejerk, you could at least have linked instead to the business insider article this is ripping off.

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      • The data center bubble is driving the up cost of copper, copper futures and copper scrap to meme stock levels.
      • Higher copper scrap prices are driving up the amount of copper theft to meme crime levels.
      • Thus data centers have a direct causal relationship with copper theft.
      • So no, it’s not an “anti-data center” circle jerk.
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        Ok and you put more thought into the framing of this story than the author of the vice post(I will not call that an article) did. If you think there isn’t an anti-datacenter circlejerk and this wasn’t bait for it I don’t know what to tell you. High value cargo theft did not start because of datacenters, but you definitely only heard about this one because of the huge appetite for anti-datacenter news.

        That’s what I mean by circlejerk. Things that are not actually particularly exceptional are being treated like major news stories because people crave confirmation bias and schadenfreude. This vice post is one of the most transparent examples of the outrage economy that I’ve seen in a while.

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          You can pretend that the piss you’re drinking is water but you can’t pretend that AI and Datacenters aren’t subsidizing the meth renaissance.

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        Do you think pretending that thieves doing what they have always done is now epic and based is somehow hurting AI companies?

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          No.

          Im making fun of people who defend multi-billion dollar companies online. As the person I was responding to did.

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            You’re so based for standing up for the clickbait rag that is modern vice. Even if you have the reading comprehension of a grade schooler.

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                You are really stupid dude. I’m not standing up for open AI, you are the only person standing up for a business. It’s just the business is a clickbait farm.

                You craving manufactured schadenfreude is not activism.