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    They’re expensive because it’s the last one you’ll ever need

    Every 3 years a new water bottle brand completely oneshots middle class white women like clockwork

    There are lots of targeted products and demographics for which this sort of thing is true. My guess is that this is probably very far from the most costly example, though.

    My water bottle — I got one as part of a kit for my bike — is determinedly untrendy and plastic, but it looks like these Owala things are $29. If I got one of those instead and did so every three years, that’d be $10/year. Is it necessary or financially optimal? No, probably not, but for perspective, a large pizza is about $30 where I am. The water bottle is probably a healthier unnecessary purchase than the pizza…and I get a pizza a lot more frequently than one every three years.

    I mean, the !flashlight@lemmy.world or the !fountainpens@lemmy.world or the !knives@sopuli.xyz or the !EDC@sopuli.xyz people all have their own often-not-really-necessary items that they get and carry around — and most of those tend to be more guy things — that in all honesty are mostly for fun. You could buy a number of these Owala water bottles for what a nice Spyderco knife might run, and you don’t need to pay what a Spyderco knife runs to get a sharp bit of metal to have with you.

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        Thanks. Looks like I’m subscribed to both, and just hit the first when searching. The latter does seem to be more active.

        And I’m not trying to single out those people. Looking at that community list, I have probably seven or eight pocketknives myself (including two Spydercos), several flashlights (including a tri-18650-cell, Anduril-firmware flashlight), probably a dozen fountain pens (including one gold nib-equipped one), and a multitool that I carry with me. Those are, if I am to be honest, unnecessary toys — I would be at most very mildly inconvenienced if every one of those disappeared tomorrow. Just saying that before we get too enthusiastically involved in bagging on the middle-class white woman who spends $10/year on a not-really-necessary fad waterbottle…maybe everyone should consider their own unnecessary stuff. If they’re truly more disciplined and ascetic, fair enough. But I think on the “toy” scale, the fad waterbottle probably isn’t especially bad.

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    I’ve been using nalgene bottles forever because I like my water room temperature. Im probably 80% microplastics now.

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      I carried one for like a decade, I’ve got a couple of metal bottles that I’ve had for years now too.

      I think we are all fully marinated in petroleum byproducts.

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    😅😅😅. Wtf is even this Owala Shit.

    Like

    Hello, yes, it’s water bottle.

    A water bottle designed for people who drink water. You can hydrate fast

    😅😅😅. Who’s coming up with that shit?

    Their FAQs

    Does the Owala bottle contain lead?

    Like, this is seriously the most frequently asked question?

    They don’t even have pictures of the opened bottle or how you actually drink from it to show “how to hydrate faster”.

    The whole thing looks like crazy satire which went to far.

    And what a steal. Only 42 € for a fucking water bottle (plus shipping, 'cause why not).

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      Not familiar with Osaka either, but that question about lead makes sense - as that was the cause for the downfall of the previous fad-bottle brand Stanley.

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          They use it as a seal plug on the exterior base for the vacuum chamber which is then sealed.

          Not ideal but not as bad as it sounds. But still a silly thing to do, especially considering the target audience.

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            They weren’t exactly the target audience. It was more like when teenage boys started liking My Little Pony. A complete surprise, but they took advantage of it as well as they could.

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      Owala is the best bottle. 36 hours of freezing cold water that doesn’t leak at all. That sounds harder to come by than you’d think.

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    I saw one of those 24 bottles on a window sill in the lecture hall. It’s Made from recycled Aluminium from 24 Coken cans i believe.

    When i returnwd to the same hall two weeks later it was still there in the exact samespot, so i thought “im having that!” and bright it home.

    It’s excellent,sealsconfidently,tastes amazing out of the fridge.

    10/10 recommend.

    Karen is in to something!

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      Just remember that the hard part is not buying the thing, but keeping it clean. I’ve seen some filthy MFs drinking swamp water with a dash of mold. Some of those chic water bottle designs are nearly impossible to keep clean.

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    I gave away everything but a bowl to hold my water, but I saw a boy drink water from only his hands.

    How have become so materialistic?

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    Middle class white women are like men who only play AAA shooters or sports games and kids with most things; they see something that’s becoming popular and latch onto it like parasites and make it their whole personality.
    There are many other groups of people loke this bit I’m too fucking tired ATM and already in bed to list any more, it’s all just a never ending thing.

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    I purchased an RTC stainless steel insulated tumbler in 2015. It’s the only cup I ever use and it’s still going strong after daily use and still looks brand new. Was 20 bucks (they were clearly undercutting Yeti at the time). It’s been a solid purchase, I think the same cup from them now runs 40 bucks on Amazon.

    Then again I’m still using the same plastic ninja turtle bowl I got from a box of Cookie Crisp cereal in 1988… So anything will last a very long time with care.

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      Then again I’m still using the same plastic ninja turtle bowl I got from a box of Cookie Crisp cereal in 1988…

      Back when there were cool goodies in cerial boxes. I miss those days. I especially remember getting Rollercoaster Tycoon 1 on CD once.

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        They had to stop that because they were targeting kids and forcing sugary cereal on them with bribes.

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    I think the owala is almost perfect. Owala is probably the most revolutionary out of all the previous ones. The crazy downside is you can’t put hot water in it

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      I ended up getting a Camelbak stainless steel one now. Wide mouth and no flimsy nooks, so it’s super easy to clean compared to most of these. I was surprised they’re still going strong despite all the new(ish) players.

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      That chart is a bit outdated. That might be the millennial moms that pick up the trend late.

      All the white Gen Z girls at work have HydroJug now. Owala was a a while back. Stanley was more covid era.

      My wife has a fuckin entire cabinet dedicated to her damn cups.

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      Missed Sigg in there in the mid 2000s. But it and the Nalgene were BPA sources I thought. The rest are dumb, any stainless with a good seal works for me.

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      People were drinking water out of those stanley “cups”?

      Also as a German, where are:

      1000182647100018264810001826491000182650

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      I had some acquaintance who was a hydroflask rep or something in 2017. He saw my 5 year old beat to hell hydro flask ran out to his car and brought me two more for being an “og supporter.” I was like I guess this is cool I just hated my water getting warm in plastic ones.

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          I have a similar number actually.

          They’re hard to clean, especially the lid and threads where your lips end up.

          They’re strong but brittle, drop a full one on a hard surface and it is likely to shatter

          They aren’t insulated, meaning they sweat and the water gets warm.

          I have broken more of those stupid little straps that hold the lid on then I care to admit.

          These newer water bottles seem to have a lot of nice little features that nalgenes don’t .

          Still they are the most practical and straightforward water bottle, they are allergic to leaking and will last forever (given you dont drop full ones on rocks.)

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            I have had several. The only ways they’ve died:

            Getting soft:

            • Campers leaving them in the sun for a long time
            • Many runs through the sanitizing cycle of the dishwasher

            Breaking:

            • The tether for the lid
            • Once and only once, i had a full, dropped nalgene land on the cap at an angle, and shatter the threads/lip. Nalgene sent me a new one – all they wanted was a picture of the damage.
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              I have really abused their replacement policy. Gotten like 5+ lids from them and two waterbottles. I took a photo of my brothers 20yo nalgene and they sent me a new one lol.

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            Nalgene are hard to clean, wut? Just put a drop of washing up liquid with water and give it a shake and take a soft brush to the threads. Still 10x easier than any other water vessel short of a bucket lol.

            Warm water also hydrates better than cold water when you’re actually in need too, so I never mind that

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              Warm water also hydrates better than cold water when you’re actually in need too, so I never mind that

              This may be scientifically true, but it can’t hydrate me if I don’t drink it, and I’m about 1,000x more likely to drink it when it’s nice and cold.

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                Not me, but I’ll respect a difference of opinion. Drinking cold water on a hot day makes me have to shit immediately. Lukewarm water, I can clear my while 32oz Nalgene in one guzzle, no cap

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                  that doesnt seem normal, most people dont have this problem. your bottle could be still dirty, or had some bacteria in it. i often drink cold in hot days, i never get this.

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              Warm water, cold water it’s hard to choose when it comes to hydration in a lot of scenarios. Most of the time if you’re sweating a lot, chances are you could use both the cooling effect of cold water and the faster hydration. In cold environments that’s obviously a no-brainer.

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            They’re pretty tough. I’ve ran mine over with a tractor and it dented the bottom, but was otherwise fine. Had that one for 15 years.

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          Plastic. Also, just less easy to drink out of the wide mouth (which obviously has its benefits, and they make the insert to make it easier to drink from, anyway).

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          The water in them tastes weird from my experience when they gave us some for camping.

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      As a youth girls soccer coach, I’m so glad Stanley’s finally stopped being popular. Every girl that brought one to practice would inevitably have it too over and spill. It got to the point where I had to tell parents all water bottles had to have a lid that completely closed.

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        I’m a school bus driver. I could have built a house by now entirely made from the water bottles that kids leave behind on my bus. They wouldn’t work for the roof, you say? That’s what the ear bud cases are for.

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      I don’t know, that timeline kind of just seems like what’s on sale at Costco, which does seem to rotate every few years. Could be a chicken or the egg kind of situation or just simply a people-like-costco kind of observation too.

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      Oh my god. I’ve seen so many unbranded bottles just like the S’Well one and never knew where they came from. Guess I’m one of today’s lucky 10,000

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      I’m still looking for a fully stainless steel one with a stainless lid that has an unscrewable spout on a hinge like a metal flask, but large and water bottle shaped. All of these have plastic somewhere in the chain.

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        unfortunately those are usually the only good ones. i never seen a metal one with a spout. i have one that insulated , ecovessel that is a fully metal cap you can take off and drink from. something similar to the pic below.

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        Yeah, my current favorite bottle is the yeti, but it still has plastic for the lid. If they ever made a stainless lid it’d be pretty close to the perfect bottle. Wide mouth that’s super easy to clean, indestructible, replaceable seals, doesn’t alter the flavor of the water, even after multiple days. Any bottle with a mouth that doesn’t let me get my hand to the bottom, or doesn’t let me see every part of every internal surface isn’t cleanable enough for me.

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        I’ve never owned a dedicated water bottle before and decided to get one. At random I picked Owala. I’d never heard of them but liked the way the lid worked. A few weeks later I see Owala everywhere.

        I’m right on the front swell of a trend!

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        I have three of the water bottles on the image and I gotta say, I do really like the Owala. I’m personally a fan of straws but I vastly prefer having something that I can close and throw in a bag without it leaking. The Owala fits that. The only problem I’ve had is if I don’t clean it for a while. I only use water, but after a while the water I drink out of it will start to make my mouth feel dry and taste bad, if that makes any sense at all. I’ve found scrubbing the silicone seal on the lid makes a big difference.

        (Also I’m a basic white middle aged bitch so I guess only having three of the bottles in the image is good… right? Bleh.)

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          plastic caps or parts are likely to get dirty faster, and you have to clean it out everday, i clean it with dish detergent once in a while as well. i use only hot water to clean.

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        I’m big on the magnetic screw off lid that connects to the side. I love the giant handle on the big lid for carrying and ice keeps way longer, but I’m downing like eight bottles a day so that’s not a big deal.

        Only thing is, they’re stinky when new. Gotta soak the gasket in vinegar and wash it a lot.

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        Work for a tech company long enough and you’ll have a few of each of these

        Source: work for a tech company and have a few of each of these

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      Owala actually covering the part that goes in your mouth is pretty dope though. I still use a nalgene that was a swag gift from forever ago, KISS for room temperature water, perfect for the gym.

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      I bought in at S’well, am I an early adopter? I’m surprised Mii isn’t on the list.

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      My partner got me a water bottle in the late 2010s, its still going just fine. Few scratches on the paint now and minor dents in places but that is it.

      Could do with an insulated flask that can hold strew. Boil some veg/stock in the morning and pour into the flask, it cooks during the day and can have it as my lunch at work. Similar to cooking in a slow cooker or haybox.

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    I’m a poor consumer. I have my first insulated coffee cup from about 25 years ago. I bought a second one for tea about 15 years ago. I have had several water bottles of different sizes all from promos that I have kept and used since I received them - the newest is aluminum and 12 years old. The oldest is 25 or 30 years old. Although my husband may make up for my lack of buying - he is always trying out new hydration systems for hiking & biking.

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      You can upgrade for cheap to the last fad beverage container by visiting your nearest thrift store. Currently they will a bunch of Stanley cups for very cheap. Your other option is know someone in sales or just walk through a trade show where they will give you swag (junk land fill) which usually includes yeti cups as of late.

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      I used a $10 Wal-Mart brand one every day for a few months to make sure I’d actually use it. Then I upgraded to a Stanley when they were on sale since it’s also dishwasher safe and the lid on my Walmart one was starting to not seal as well.