Russian women or Russian female children?
That he PAID for?
According to the press, theyre the same thing.
Honestly, that probably one of the tamer things in those files.
Are you familiar with the documents in the files claiming he tried to source antibiotics for something he “caught” from those underage Russian girls, with intention of also secretly slipping his wife the same antibiotics for the STI he likely gave to her? https://www.btimesonline.com/articles/176578/20260201/epstein-files-reveal-bill-gates-caught-an-std-and-asked-for-antibiotics-to-give-wife-melinda-in-secret.htm
What a guy. /sarcasm /notsorry
If we were in a different “sub”, I’d also now post a photograph of a wooden assembly using a heavy, sharpened piece of metal that uses gravity to powerfully remove things from other things, but the mods here have previously educated me to the fact they do not allow that. >.>
A comically large cigar tip cutter
Yeah that’s fucked, but have you seen some of the other shit in those files? It really is tame by comparison.
Agreed, but while on topic I suggest we place this particular admitted offender under the nearest prison before moving on to the next, and the next, and the next
Oh, I’m certainly not afraid of a few guillotines coming out. I’d imagine America could Really help out boosting French trade once they bring up their guillotine industry. No one makes them like they do.
The conservation of energy in that device is splendid.
Just make sure that the guy who has to pull the rope is paid a living wage. ☝️🧐
Ofcourse they don’t allow that! That thing is horrible unsave. Feels like they invented in during the French revolution and never gave any thought about operator safety. Who knows how many people died because of this thing?
I kinda disagree, they were probably underaged, I don’t know much about the epstien files, all I know is that most of the people there were preds, minors, etc.
I didn’t look into them. My sister did and she’s….not taking it well.
Oh…ok… now off to jail with ya!
Haha. Man, it would be cool if that’s how the American system worked.
To prison!
For sleeping with women?
For (likely) sleeping with very young girls.
Jumping to conclusions isn’t wise
EDIT: I goofed and thought the person above answered to me
Can you show me proof of that? Mila Antanova was in early 20s, not below 20 I forgot the age of that nuclear physicist, but there is zero proof of him sleeping with minors.
Besides, I recently got heavily downvoted on Lemmy for saying that tall grown men look weird when dating women that I cannot tell if they’re over 18, but my opinion on the matter aside, objectively he did not really break any laws, besides marriage.
but there is zero proof of him sleeping with minors.
Not yet…
Forgive me for jumping to a conclusion like this, but lots of the proof still remains buried, obscured, and redacted, and any guy who willingly associates with Epstein for an “affair” is automatically a suspect in my eyes.
I think its perfectly plausible for bill gates to be a decent human being while also participating in sex with Russian womens. And until proof says otherwise, like all persons, we shouldn’t be making up stories.
if he was a decent human being he’d drop 90% of his wealth out of a helicopter and wouldn’t be asking a notorious sex trafficking criminal for advice on ways to surreptitiously slip his wife drugs for an STI he got having sex with other people.
just to set aside for a moment the possibility that the people he had sex with were coerced or children
I don’t think asking people to dump all of their money is the line that differentiates people from being good people and bad people. It’s like good people do bad things sometimes doesn’t mean we shouldn’t forgive or understand. Obviously the shit with his wife is not very good, but as it stands hasn’t he done some good? Either way probably best to judge on what we know and not the speculation as that would just lead to diluting the real story for the speculative lol
Though it is speculation, I think he is most likely guilty. We gotta wait and see.
I’m pretty sure that dosing someone unknowing with medicine is a crime, daterapedrug or not really doesn’t matter.
Ohh, so he was one of the innocent people who just happened to be friends with Epstein. Here I am assuming a guy running a pedophile island wouldnt just have normal friends like Bill Gates, where they played bridge and discussed things like pharmaceuticals, on his down days of trafficking women.
The more we advance in this whole mess the more he is confessing. It’s not long before we learn he abused kids. Put him in prison
You’re gross
It’s normal if it’s gross for you, these things come with time; once you get puberty you’ll start to understand
EDIT: Do I really need the /j here?
You know that is not what the user meant.
That is literally why my comment is a joke, I did not argue the comment, I joked about it.
To elaborate: I do not get insulted about things I’m sure they’re wrong about (about me), it just makes me laugh
Responding with “once you get puberty you’ll start to understand” to someone who thinks you are defending a pedophile probably ain’t the wisest move though. A joke, maybe but don’t expect that shit to land well at all.
Point taken
I think the assumption is that they were underage, trafficked women.
Stop calling them “underage women”. Adopting the apologist language used by the news media is what the pedo cult wants.
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You never answered my question.
Assuming you really want to know …
In the US (where Bill Gates lives), we don’t generally consider women to be women until they are of age. “Underage women” is an oxymoron. They are appropriately referred to children, girls, or teens.
Ah. Thanks; I was genuinely curious. So, people feel the term is overly PC and sanitizes the topic. I get it, I suppose.
Nah you’re fucking gross dude.
The correct term is children
Assumptions can be dangerous and make you look like an idiot. There has been zero proof that Gates was involved with minors and I’m not going to go that far until there is at least something pointing to it besides the fact that he met with Eipstein.
Epstein was more than a child trafficker. He dealt in information, blackmail material and financial… “services”, as I understand it. Having been had contact with him isn’t immediate proof of any specific crime, because his portfolio is so wide, and also because I imagine a snake like him will have slithered into many places the high and wealthy congregate.
The question then is the extent and nature of the connections. On one hand, I’m all for being cautious about assuming guilt.
On the other, this is a billionaire we’re talking about. I find myself less charitable with good will when it comes to parasites of that caliber.
Exactly. Blackmail.
I suggest you actually do some deeper reading into this whole mess. I got too bored and the image completely changed for me. It’s way deeper and and Occam’s razor is not going to work here. Eipstein really did a lot of blackmailing, it was already proven that some emails were straight up fabricated.
That aside - it is now known who the two women were, and Bill did not met them thru Eipstein, neither were they underage. The whole Eipstein mess actually came after these two women.
contact with him isn’t immediate proof of any specific crime
And this is why we have courts and rule of law and not mob rule. The mob clearly is ready to hang him. And if he is guilty, he should.
But at the moment, there is no clear proof that I’m aware of.
So it’d be fucking nice if people would take a damn step back and concentrate on supporting the rule of law and getting this evidence into courts so that we can have the best possible chance of convicting and punishing the guilty.
Because let’s be clear: I support punishment for all who are guilty.
But mob rule is what the fascists want and thrive on. Trump says “X is guilty” and the fucking cult goes nuts and presses for their death.
Can our side NOT be like that? Please?
My only misgivings with the court of law are that they’re slow (a necessary byproduct of diligence) and that the law they’re adjudicating is biased (really more of an issue with the legislation). There is also the problem of corrupt or biased judges, but corruption is a universal concern.
They’re still more reliable than a lynching based on suspicion and emotion.
There has been zero proof that Gates was involved with minors
I believe Trump’s made similar claims. Good thing the files are full of redactions.
I agree. Just clarifying why I think people are calling for him to go to prison.
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o.0 Really tryin’ to dodge those bio-terrorism charges.
copy that floppy
“his 27-year marriage with two Russian women”
I didn’t know that was even legal.
Ahhh guys, he apologized. I mean, it’s only a bit of foreign blackmail targeting a man with unbearable weight on global tech. He said he was sorry!
And almost 300k acres of farmland?
No sympathy here. If he is admitting to that, no reason to believe him on the kid stuff, better do a very deep look.
He can keep the cell warm for Trump as far as I’m concerned.
Yeah, this comes across as admitting to a small thing to try and avoid consequences for the big thing. If we’re already in a place where we’re talking about a man with a life of elicit affairs while spending time around a child sex trafficker, it is absurdly unbelievable that at no point did those wires get crossed or that he was unaware of what he was getting himself into.
The term for this is “trickle truthing”, and it’s a common tactic when someone gets caught doing something terrible.
Of course there’s a name for it
its also testing the waters to gauge reactions, so the “offender” can react accordingly.
It infuriates me that these things are simultaneously common, yet effective on the majority of civilization.
It’s not the same severity, but it reminds me of when Kevin Spacey was having rape allegations or something. So he came out and said he was finally coming out of the closet.
It was like, “yeah … okay … what about the other stuff … ?”
Kevin who? He is unemployed and poor now, where he should be.
and then he tried to say he lost his job “like other people” due to covid. most of his ACCUSERS either died, or dint have enough evidence. RAPP eventhough he wasnt succcesful in suing him, help “cancel” at the least.
and his PR stunts, for the last few decades was pretty obvious he wasnt doing out of sincerity.
He’s sorry he got an STI from an underage Russian prostitute and he gave it to Melinda, then asked Epstein how to slip her antibiotics without her knowing.
“affair”. fuck right off Bill.
There are no underage prostitutes. They’re children being exploited and abused. He’s sorry he got caught raping children.
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“I apologize to other people who are drawn into this because of the mistake I made,” he said. “It definitely is the opposite of the values of the Foundation and the goals of the Foundation.”
It’s not though. The foundation is a way to spread his influence, bolster his ego, and pay less in taxes. Wasn’t that why he was pals with the pedo kingpin?
also to partially shield himself from Epsteins fallout apparently.
“I never knew the man.”
“Okay I knew him but only casually.”
“Okay we hung out a bit.”
“Okay I spent time on his rape island but didn’t partake.”
“Okay I had consensual sex with women there.” — You are here.
“Okay they were trafficked sex victims and it was rape.”
“Okay they were children.”
… “Okay we ate the children to dispose of the evidence.”
I mean, at this point? A lot of shit has been redacted and Epstein’s proven heavily involved in longevity research.
Anyone seriously want to rule out the possibility all those Andrenochrome Harvesting allegations Trump’s team made about Clinton are a confession?
yep. Every accusation is a confession when these people are concerned.
And all the while Elon Musk was outside the window, begging to be let in on the sex parties.
Poor guy.
He loves this narrative, but the reality is that both him and his family are all heavily involved.
The phrase “underage women” is the biggest lie mainstream media has pushed as part of all of this. These scumbags didn’t have sex with “underage women”. The raped children.
For anyone that still needs to hear this: there are no good billionaires! ABAB. This dude right here was the poster child for "good billionaires’. I don’t know whether only evil fuckers can become billionaires (probably), but I do know that having access to functionally unlimited wealth and power will inevitably warp your soul.
I prefer ABAC. All Billionaires Are Cunts.
RIP T Swift
This dude right here was the poster child for “good billionaire”
Really? I mean he tried really hard to whitewash his image with his charity and malaria research, but he was always a piece of absolute shit and the ‘good billionaire’ label was always a scam: DOS deal games, monopoly behavior, billionaire policy capture through his foundation, education meddling, vaccine-IP politics, nothing he did was truly charity, everything was self serving.
I fully agree with you. I been team “fuck Bill Gates” forever. I just mean that there’s a whole lot of people that were jock-riding him.
Any good billionaire could donate down to being a hundred-millionaire and live a life of obscene comfort for generations. Why wouldn’t you, if you weren’t trash?
a billionaire would never give enough away money to make themselves poor, they are too use to that lifestyle. like a millionaire dont want to be 10 or 100 thousandaire.
Being a hundred-millionaire is not making yourself poor or even giving up that lifestyle.
But yeah, of course they don’t do it: billionaires can’t be good people.
ONLY POSSIBLE way is they “DIE”(which is a hit or miss, like for example some med school recieved 1bn+ donation and it gave free tuition, however it allowed the med school to exclude disadvantaged people because they can be more selective(like making the entry into med school harder) or lose all thier money from horrible investments.
gates was and is one of the most ruthless billionaires, thats why his sudden pivoting to “helping africa” was all but disengenious, but now it made sense since the epstein files came out.
Yeah the money thing can make good people terrible
I don’t think Billionaires like Gates were corrupted by their money. Rather, I think only narcissistic sociopaths care to do all the fuck of things necessary to amass that kind of wealth and power. Anyone with a conscious would stop much earlier.
FYI, it’s conscience, not conscious. Though admittedly, sometimes I wonder if these billionaire cunts are conscious at all.
Imagine winning the game. But you have decades of your life left. By definition, you have access to the most exclusive of everything. Nobody ever tells you “no”. I’m not surprised these fucks decide that even the the most universal social taboos shouldn’t confine them.
The thing is, you can start to taste that at a much lower level, that’s why everyone tries to get there. Normal people would retire and look to enjoy their life at $100 mill. But once they get that taste, they want more of it. That’s why we put down lions, sharks and crocodiles after they eat a human. Oh, and because they’re not billionaires.
