I take back everything I said in my previous post because of this
They went from “indexing the world’s information” to “plagiarizing and supplanting the world’s information.”
Who still uses Google as a self respecting techie?
Louis Rossmann already talked about how if he generates his website content with ai, or post-processes it with ai, it scores #1 in results consistently, whereas THE SAME information written in a human way, scores down in the hundreds.
They already did it.
“We, Google, who produce an AI, are now prioritizing AI content in our search engine, in a totally unrelated decision to our AI production, so that we can totally not artificially inflate the imaginary value of AI so as to force more people to use our AI to create content, so it will show in our search engine we’ve gone to lengths to skew results in the favor of AI in to give you the best service imaginable (because its imaginary to think we provide the best of anything)”
I really wish we’d get another president into the office thats willing to take a massive hammer to these big companies and bust them up into shards again… preferably this time making sure they cant T2000 themselves back together into the original whole, thats somehow worse.
I noticed that dictionary definitions on Google are now AI-generated, whereas they used to be taken from the Oxford English Dictionary, written by humans. Needless to say I much preferred the human-written definitions.
What? You don’t like the fever dreams of the planet killing machines?
Geez, a person would have to think for like 2, maybe even 5 seconds to forsee how this plays out. Instead of buying apples from the orchard, we’ll be buying apples from the local apple thieves. Hey, why are there no more apples?
Yay, more model collapse for everybody!
Is it right if we’re not sure if it’s wrong?
I guess it’s a good damn thing I don’t use Google anymore.
Are there any plans to release an AI that’s not dogshit?
The problem isn’t that AI is dogshit. In fact there are many things that have been revolutionized because of AI. Our understanding of biology has catapulted forward decades because of new models.
The problem is marketing. Those few use cases, while truely amazing, are only useful for a few things. The marketing of AI is horrible, throwing it into every product whether it makes sense or not. Throwing more money at it when it doesn’t make sense in the vain hopes that will eventually make it profitable. Then manipulating the market so that alternatives to your bad product aren’t feasible.
These silicon valley narcissists need AI to be profitable more than AI can become profitable.
AlphaFold is not an LLM tho
I think homey is using a more expanded AI definition then the “Looks inside: It’s a LLM” one that is generally used today.
Perhaps. My issue is more with the muddy waters when it comes to “AI”. It might be because it’s near to my profession, and I frequently encounter a fervent, yet clueless enthusiasm. When that same lack of specificity is used to argue for what they don’t really understand either, for example:
The problem isn’t that AI is dogshit. In fact there are many things that have been revolutionized because of AI. Our understanding of biology has catapulted forward decades because of new models.
It does beg the question if they understand what they are talking about. “AI is dogshit”, is weird. Are we talking about LLMs here? They are great for a lot of things. They are pretty horrible at doing what most seem to think they are great at, but that’s perhaps a different matter.
Then there is the “Our understanding of biology has catapulted forward decades because of new models”. If we are generalizing “AI models” to include the ones that have contributed to biology, we end up with a definition of “AI” that becomes “model based computational solution optimization”.
A big part of the problem is that everything is AI and AI is everything. Machine learning, LLMs, and “AI companies” are three very different concepts that get muddled together by newspeak.
Many machine learning applications are indeed truly innovative and a leap forward in how we deal with certain classes of problems, like in computer vision or computational biology as you mentioned. But the big trouble with LLMs imo is twofold: they are kryptonite for our monkey brains as language is something so uniquely human that it is a literal backdoor into our minds; and as a whole they are both affected and effected by the forced enshittification of capitalism, whether directly or indirectly, and the interests of “others”, leading to some not great times.
Chatbots are a different type of AI entirely tho.
I agree with you. I’m working on a novel, and it’s been really helpful for preliminary editing advice, and bouncing ideas off of. Not perfect, but it’s better than no one. And I really don’t understand why it’s not marketed more as a collaborative assistant, rather than something that just does mediocre work for you.
I’m nearly done with book it suggested as research, and i don’t think it could have been a better subject. It’s a great pick for what I needed.
But compared to ChatGTP, Gemini is fucking retarded.
Or in other words, the problem is that AI is dogshit outside the very small range of tasks that it’s good at.
Yes.
I love that Google has convinced themselves they can be a massive advertisement company without the mechanism that got us to look at the ads.
They’ve got a whole lot more avenues to shove ads down people’s throats now than when they started, though.
vanilla duckduck has embedded ai as well
NoAI.duckduckgo.com is even better
Uh I thought that DuckDuckGo was an unpopular opinion
What doth thy mean
Good thing i dont use google anymore
Dammit. Now I have to spend more time at the library. Thankfully it ain’t too far away.
And if you try to use the AI search to actually find any actual websites or articles it will just hallucinate them. They kept telling us AI was the future of search, but we know they want it to be the future of information.
Its just that they can’t afford to not be. You leaving for another site is heresy with how much money they need to make on selling ads and you.
And the middle man has decided they have overheard enough of the conversation going both ways to just “know” what you are about to ask and what the answer should be.
This is the new market for them. Not being a search algorithm but being a magical information hoarder that can predict everything about their user and their brand partners.They want to be Madame Leota
Hey another reason to stop using Google’s enshittified search engine.
It’s not even a search engine anymore. It’s just another stream of ad revenue for them. They’re an advertising company, NOT a search company.
Glad I stopped years ago. F—k big tech.
