• tomkatt@lemmy.world
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    I’d have to actually use Spotify for that. No thanks.

    I’m all up for sharing alternatives that are good/better towards actual artists.

    • Tidal
    • Qobuz
    • Deezer
    • Apple Music

    Literally everyone pays artists more than Spotify. Even fucking Peleton, apparently.

    Tidal seems to be the best option overall. Deezer pays artists less initially than the other services (but still more than Spotify), but the royalties increase for tracks with at least 1,000 streams from 500 unique subscribers each month. Popular artists with more play make more royalties. You benefit Deezer, they benefit you, which makes sense to me.

    Qobuz seems to pay highly to artists, but their library is a bit more limited compared to Tidal and Deezer, and their radio functionality is utterly shit.

    Apple is the only one I don’t have much info on. I’ve used all four at various points, but Apple Music the least because I don’t like my options being limited to playing it on my Apple TV, and Apple devices are limited to 24-bit/48khz, and Apple has weird EQ that pushes vocals way forward in my experience. I don’t like the music fucked with, just play it without DSP and let my equipment to the work, okay?

    Currently subscribed to Qobuz and Deezer, and seriously, fuck Spotify.

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      I’ve had the opposite experience with Tidal vs Qobuz. Tidal had almost none of what I listen to, but Qobuz did the best job of catching my library when I migrated.

      I think it depends entirely on what your music interests are. But I’ve been pretty happy with Qobuz.

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        I was referring mostly to balancing out artist royalties with service quality/content, but preference is all subjective and their libraries are all huge. I mean, I’ve got several thousand albums, over 54k tracks in my local library and it would barely scratch a tiny percent of these services.

        I actually like Qobuz as well, and it’s great for jazz and classical in particular. I have it integrated with Lyrion, but my wife prefers other services, and Deezer is the currently preferred option. We tend to rotate music services periodically and generally have two at any time. We don’t do much with video services, neither of us watches stuff frequently, but we game and listen to music often.

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        Edit - I really do find Qobuz’s radio feature to be shit, but with Lyrion I have integrated “Don’t stop the music” plugin that pulls related artists via LastFM’s API and keeps an indefinite music queue going.

        In general I prefer owning my music locally, and mostly use the streaming services for discovery.

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    FYI, Qobuz pays artists very well (the most of any streaming service last I checked) and they have a ton of audiophile-grade quality stuff. Been using them for a couple years, highly recommend.

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        Did that the other day for an album i couldnt find elsewhere. Not an unpleasant experience. Will repeat in the future if needed.

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      Is there a way to see their library without signing up? Ive ditched spotify already but the problem i have is half the artists i like seem to only be on yt and spotify

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        You can view a large chunk of their library via their download shop e.g.: https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/shop

        I do think they have some things that are streaming-only, and those might not show up in the download shop.

        I can warn you that they don’t have all the artists / songs I used to be able to get on YT / Tidal, but they have enough to keep me happy.

        If you can’t figure it out any other way, DM me a list of Arists / Titles / Tracks to look for and I’ll search from my account for you.

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        half the artists i like seem to only be on yt and spotify

        That’s interesting. I don’t think I’ve ever had this problem. Mine seen to be everywhere. What kind of stuff do you like? I’m into lots of indie rock and I always figured if any artists would be missing it’d be my obscure little indie bands

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          Mostly rock and pop stuff, a little bit of rap. Ill admit i havent looked recently, it was a couple years ago at this point. But Tidal and uhhh idk some other one i cant remember the name of didnt have a bunch of stuff I like, like deathbyromy, bodyimage, demondice, TRiDENT, and some others(probably not an exactly perfect list of what they were missing at the time bc like i said years ago, but ya).

          But im pleased now that i got around to checking out a bunch of artists qobuz seems to have everything. And as others have attested to, the quality is good.

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      I’ve been using Qobuz for a while and it’s fine. I feel like I lost a bunch of niche artists when I moved from YT Music to Tidal and then more when I moved from Tidal to Qobuz. Still, it’s got a wide selection and much of it is absolutely audiophile quality.

      I wish their Android app had a legitimate offline mode. I have a playlist downloaded that I use when driving, but I often have WiFi in the driveway when I start it. This cause Qobuz to decide to stream the song, and then it continues streaming instead of using the downloaded songs, while I drive around and using way more data than I’d like. I’ve started turning off mobile data, and only hitting play once I think I’m far enough away from the house, but sometimes I’ll drive past somewhere I have the saved WiFi for and Qobuz will switch to streaming, and then just stop playing with no error message in Android Auto once I leave the WiFi and the buffer runs out.

      I wish their web app would allow me to access the “For Me” “Daily Qobuz” and “Weekly Qobuz” dynamic playlists. They are a fine way to start my day with a mix of stuff I know I like and new experiences – but I have to open up my phone to start them, because that section is just compeltely missing from the web version.

      I still recommend Qobuz every time I’m asked because they both pay artists more and aren’t based in the United States (so they are less likely to kowtow to Trump); I even did the 3-year plan when it was offered. But, my personal experience is worse with them than the other services I’ve used.

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        I wish their Android app had a legitimate offline mode.

        This is my main gripe too, but you can set the playlist to only show and play your downloaded tracks.

        What I do occassionally run into is that when I stream one thing on my PC and play a different offline playlist later (without having internet), then when my phone has a connection again, it starts playing whatever my PC was playing. Full offline mode would help here, but the real fix would being able to let my devices independently decide what they’re playing rather than all devices being a hivemind once on internet.

        I’d also still recommend them though. I have my gripes, but they’re pretty minor overall. Being able to buy the music is also amazing.

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          you can set the playlist to only show and play your downloaded tracks

          That doesn’t seem to work for me. I’ve dowloaded my driving playlist, and hit the toggle to only show downloaded tracks, but for some reason the Android app still wants to stream sometimes AND when it does it evidently deletes the downloaded version. I haven’t change the playlist in months, and I keep having to hit the download button, because one or more tracks is somehow no longer downloaded.

          I have checked both my Qobuz and system-level storage allocation and availability. I’m no where near running out of either.

          when my phone has a connection again, it starts playing whatever my PC was playing

          Yeah, I do wish I could disconnect those. I understand why someone would want a playlist to “follow” them across devices, but I don’t, usually. Right now, it’s the only way I can get the “DailyQ” to play on my laptop or desktop. But, if I could I’d keep the phone just on the few playlists that I have downloaded on it, and do streaming / exploration / auto-play / weekly shows on my laptop and desktop.

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            I haven’t change the playlist in months, and I keep having to hit the download button, because one or more tracks is somehow no longer downloaded.

            Ah yeah I have that too, but that doesn’t seem to be for the same reason as you.

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    I left Spotify two years ago and haven’t looked back. I’ve been happy enough with Tidal but eventually I’m going to start self-hosting.

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    Feedback provides them unpaid market research data, and they do not give a single fuck about artists anyway.
    Just stop using it, that hurts them the most.

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    Spotify is the death of music. It has already been happening now just start to randomly slip in AI generated music and soon your biggest cost, the artists goes away.

    Maybe jot today hut in two years. Likely. Fuck Spotify. Streaming music was convenient but it broke incentives for artists.

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    I left Spotify when they paid Rogan a shitload of money to peddle his crap while making efforts to reduce the share of streaming revenue that independent artists received. Guess we all have our tipping points but I’m surprised it has taken some this long while claiming to care about artists.

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.social
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    I’m kind of afraid to send any kind of feedback to Spotify because for the last few years, they haven’t actually charged me for my premium account. Literally the only reason I still use it over something else. I don’t want to give them any excuse to look at it and fix the “problem.”

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    “Wildly disrespectful” is using Spotify in the first place. Stop supporting big tech just because “it’s convenient”.

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      It’s been known that Spotify is the worst platform for artists for YEARS. If you don’t hate the people who make your music then leave that dogshit platform

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    just so you know: big tech apps have 4.5+ rating cause of bot ratings. the only way is to just use something else. qobuz simply bans ai music from the platform, deezer has better artist recommendation by having people correct the algorythm a bit. there are alternatives out there, you do not have to live in shame anymore.