PETA is okay with animal cruelty so long as they’re the ones doing the cruelty.
PETA is the dog that caught the car. It has no clue what to do now, and it continually hurts itself in its confusion.
There was an episode of Penn & Teller: Bullshit! all about PETA. Gives a good overview of what they’re really all about.
Yeah they were killing more dogs and cats then kill shelters. Because fucking sociopaths. They don’t even believe in pets.
They run no rejection animal shelters. Since people in general buy too many pups from breeders other animal shelters have to reject many animals that people neglect and try to get rid of. PETA does not reject any of those that get rejected by other shelters. This means they have a huge overflow of animals that people bring there. Sadly that means euthanizing ones that they do not have the money to support. If you are pro-pets and do not fund PETA to support all the neglected pets it feels a bit hypocritical to criticize them for euthanizing when the problem is that there is too many neglected pets.
“They like to bite off more than they can chew so of course they have to spit it all over the table”
I understand, and agree, that the root of the problem is the amount of abandoned animals but I still think that what peta does is wrong. By accepting more animals than they can care for they are robbing those animals the chance to find a shelter that can actually take them in, or someone willing to adopt them, or a temporary foster home, even a life as a stray could be better than death IMO. Euthanasia should only be used as a last resort, I dont think peta is doing enough to exhaust their options and, I reiterate, they are not allowing others to try by pretending to shelter those animals. A no rejection shelter that kills the animals they cant care for is just a regular shelter with extra (and careless) steps.
If you are pro-pets and do not fund PETA to support all the neglected pets it feels a bit hypocritical to criticize them for euthanizing
I can barely fund myself
I think PETA euthanizing the animals is better than pet owners creative ways to kill their pets because shelters won’t take them.
The other shelters are already full, that’s why they take in so many animals. They are the last stop.
I genuinely don’t know what people expect PETA to do in this context.
Spending more resources on better facilities for the animals and less (preferably none) on AI slop ad campaigns and publicity stunts would be a good start.
Euthanasia should only be used as a last resort
That is… that is what it is now, basically? People in animal shelters generally don’t want to kill the animals, but what are they going to do, if they have places for fifty, and five hundred in need? They are killing them, because it is the last resort. There just are not enough resources for all the dogs - or other animals - needing help.
If you are pro-pets, don’t buy “designer” puppies. Get your animals from a shelter, or from rescues.
I absolutely adore betta fish, but I sure as hell won’t buy one. I don’t want to support keeping fish in tiny cups.
Frankly, what we need is legislation that forces pet stores to ensure that any animal kept with an intent to sell mush be housed and displayed in an appropriate enclosure for it to survive its entire natural life. That way the animals don’t suffer if they aren’t sold, and people get a good idea of what an actual appropriate setup looks like for that animal. I see too many nightmares on Craigslist and Facebook where people are keeping a 5ft corn snake in a 10 gallon enclosure because that’s what the baby corn snake was in at the pet store.
Sadly that means euthanizing ones that they do not have the money to support.
Ah, yes. The only ethical euthanasia are the ones we conduct!
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Yeah that show was full of “libertarian” bullshit. But nowadays Penn has gone vegan and abandoned “libertarianism”. People can grow up.
vegan, but not PETA
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All the animal protection laws in the US can be traced back to peta lobbing. Bet P&T were sponsored by KFC or other animal meat industry.
Show your moral superiority to PETA by going vegan and not making slop.
The other layer here is gibberish. “L’H YBQRH DIM”?
I don’t know how they do it ( https://www.mixfont.com/experiments/decoy-font ).
VEGANS are cool PETA is lame… PETA is a CIA cutout
They are a psy-op to make the public hate vegans.
This is consistent with their general scumminess.
PETA has always felt like a corporate strategy in the same vein as the oil companies infiltrating green movements and steering them away from nuclear back in the 70’s and 80’s. Like PETA exists to make Vegans and Vegetarians look bad, imo.
Yup.
Just had a random thought… twitch.tv is owned by Jeff Bezos. Hasan Piker is on the front page of that site any time he turns on his webcam. That’s kinda weird isn’t it?
Don’t know why I just thought of that.
Hasan is a big streamer
Big streamers make twitch money
Bezos loves money
Not so weird
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All Vegans, animal lovers, anyone with empathy hates PETA. Fuck PETA.
Plenty of vegans do not hate PETA. We may not always agree with their actions, like using generative AI to make ads, but they do a lot of good work and have contributed much to the vegan movement.
Also,
Vegans, animal lovers, anyone with empathy
pretty redundant
Then plenty of vegans aren’t aware all the shit PETA does.
Yeah it’s usually some nebulous handwaving or disinformation and not concrete examples of their policies so it makes sense that not all would be “aware” of it
Can you enlighten us then?
I want YOU to shut the fuck up Peta!
I don’t know much about them but I know them because of this stupid poster:
I think PeTA is a psyop to make us hate activists
Your anger is understandable. Cognitive dissonance is a deeply frustrating feeling to experience. It takes effort and self-control to push past it and reflect on why you might hate those who fight for others.
Lol, that is just hilariously bad.
PETA should be charged for shearing like that.
But… this is not how this works
I’d probably own more wool clothing if it really worked like this, because that looks delicious.
Help the animals by boiling the oceans
there are so many better vegan orgs than peta. peta is just clickbait for twitter.
Why does vegan need an organization?
…To accomplish goals?
ALF was pretty cool but the government didn’t really like them too much.
PETA is ok.
People Eating Tasty Animals
Is this rage bait?
Maybe, it’s a pretty old parody
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_for_the_Ethical_Treatment_of_Animals_v._Doughney
For boomers.
Surprising that anti-Peta sentiment is so prevalent here on Lemmy, kind of thought that would be left behind at Reddit. Aside from their deliberately abrasive marketing and the misinformation about them kidnapping people’s pets to euthanize them, what did they do?
PETA would be more respected if they weren’t so batshit crazy. Their is literally no line that they wouldn’t cross just for free publicity. They are just as bad as religion when it comes to rampant proselytizing.
While animal activism is a good thing, PETA has a unique “the ends justify the means approach” that gives other activists a bad name. Historically they were famous for extreme publicity stunts to raise awareness for animals who can’t advocate for themselves, but in recent years function more as a lobbyists interweaving animal protectionism with various unrelated issues. These lobbying efforts are contributing to the erosion and brain drain of American academic science among other important issues.
Full disclosure, I’m biased and affiliated with a non-profit trying to save academic research in Oregon. PETA has been the largest source of misinformation, using a huge amount of money to establish billboard campaigns, targeted ads, and misleading polls to paint the research center as villainous. Everyone wants to protect animals but the nuance of protecting life saving research dependant on animal models is a much harder position to argue than “save the animals”.
Research is slowly drifting away from animal testing, but today many scientific breakthroughs (some concrete examples currently under threat include a cure for HIV, GLP1S, Non-hormonal birth control) rely on animals and non-animal alternatives haven’t yet caught up in capability.
If your interested in learning more, Save Science Oregon is a website we’ve built to battle some of this information.
They pointed out that smug carnist bros are actually terrible people. They will never be forgiven in these sorts of spaces.
They say it’s because “PETA is crazy!” or some other non-statement like they don’t turn around and bitch about vegans as a whole.
People don’t hate them because they’re “annoying” or “crazy.” They hate them because they’re right. No one wants to be confronted by their Jungian shadow.
“They kill animals!”
That’s overwhelmingly the critique people have of PETA. They humanely euthanize instead of just letting animals starve on the streets. Not one viable alternative has been proposed here beyond “let other shelters try to adopt them” like there are shelters turning animals away for the sake of turning them away and not because they literally don’t have the capacity to do anything.
That’s why the overwhelming majority of these complaints are just vague innuendo about PETA doing “cruelty,” whatever that means exactly.
I’m going to start eating meat again, just out of spite (I’m not actually).
